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Box Sets and Genres
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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Personally, of they are all the same genre (say a trilogy) I am happy that the parent profile has a genre of them all; if they are a total mix (please someone tell me why they are being sold together!) then I would leave it blank.


I have seen some where genres were totally different in the boxset... A lot of Best of <Actor/Actress Name Here> sets.
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Quoting Voltaire53:
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if they are a total mix (please someone tell me why they are being sold together!) then I would leave it blank.


Usually because they are under the same actor/actress, director or author/writer.

I personally keep Genres, CoO, Cast/Crew, Video/Audio Formats, Subtitles and Features completely blank for Box Sets (since all of that info can vary disc to disc), plus the studio that released the box set (the production studios for the films are on the child profiles).  The overview is either what's on the cover (if there is an overview) or just the film titles (if there isn't).
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Quoting Voltaire53:
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Personally, of they are all the same genre (say a trilogy) I am happy that the parent profile has a genre of them all; if they are a total mix (please someone tell me why they are being sold together!) then I would leave it blank.


John Wayne Colections, Cary Grant, Spencer Tracy, James Cagney, for example, Voltaire. Why are they being sold together? because they are themed around the actor and not the type of movie...maybe.

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Quoting synner_man:
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I personally keep Genres, CoO, Cast/Crew, Video/Audio Formats, Subtitles and Features completely blank for Box Sets (since all of that info can vary disc to disc), plus the studio that released the box set (the production studios for the films are on the child profiles).  The overview is either what's on the cover (if there is an overview) or just the film titles (if there isn't).

...in addition I also remove the Running Time.

like Krik said, I'll have to go through and make sure all this is applied to al my Box Sets (no boredom tonight, I guess...
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Speaking of themes, this forum is like many magazines every few months the same themes, questions keep coming up with same results. And this has been around many times before.
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Well, Srethims we are moving into the summer re-run season.                      

This is yet another reason why search is your friend...and visiting the forums more than once a year.

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IMO in the parent profile should be entered every information that is constant over the box set or has a special meaning (e.g. sum of the run time). Therefore I would add the genres to the parent if (and only if) those a valid for the whole box set.
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How would you handle sets that contain movies that share some genres?

In those cases, the data of the parent profile is only partially covering the genres and is incomplete in comparison to the child profiles.

Example:

Dawn of the Dead / Shaun of the Dead Box Set (yeez, this profile really seems to haunt me....)

Currently, the parent profile listed "Horror" and "Comedy" as genres. While this is true for Shaun of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead is not even close to being a comedy (regardless some funny parts...). The genre "Comedy" has been removed recently.

But now the parent profile does list genres, but only imcomplete.

IMO, to avoid any confusion, genres should stay out of parent profiles.

IMO, the only data that should be in a Box Set parent profile is:

  • Title,

  • Edition,

  • CoO,

  • Production year,

  • Rating,

  • Region,

  • combined running time,

  • Release Date,

  • Case type,

  • SRP,

  • distribution studio,

  • any features exclusive to the box set (figurines, money clips, gadgets, booklets) and of course,

  • UPC and locality
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    Quoting Darxon:
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    How would you handle sets that contain movies that share some genres?

    In those cases, the data of the parent profile is only partially covering the genres and is incomplete in comparison to the child profiles.

    Example:

    Dawn of the Dead / Shaun of the Dead Box Set (yeez, this profile really seems to haunt me....)

    Currently, the parent profile listed "Horror" and "Comedy" as genres. While this is true for Shaun of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead is not even close to being a comedy (regardless some funny parts...). The genre "Comedy" has been removed recently.

    But now the parent profile does list genres, but only imcomplete.

    IMO, to avoid any confusion, genres should stay out of parent profiles.

    IMO, the only data that should be in a Box Set parent profile is:

  • Title,

  • Edition,

  • CoO,

  • Production year,

  • Rating,

  • Region,

  • combined running time,

  • Release Date,

  • Case type,

  • SRP,

  • distribution studio,

  • any features exclusive to the box set (figurines, money clips, gadgets, booklets) and of course,

  • UPC and locality


  • I completely agree with this, with the exception of Country of Origin, which (like Genres) may also differ in the movies in the box set, and should therefore, IMO, be excluded from the box set main profile.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Agreed.

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    DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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    Quoting Behemot:
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    IMO, the only data that should be in a Box Set parent profile is:

  • Title,

  • Edition,

  • CoO,

  • Production year,

  • Rating,

  • Region,

  • combined running time,

  • Release Date,

  • Case type,

  • SRP,

  • distribution studio,

  • any features exclusive to the box set (figurines, money clips, gadgets, booklets) and of course,

  • UPC and locality


  • I completely agree with this, with the exception of Country of Origin, which (like Genres) may also differ in the movies in the box set, and should therefore, IMO, be excluded from the box set main profile.
    Personally I would also leave out the Running Time. The cardboard (or whatever) box has none and the data is redundant to the combined information from the child profiles.

    Of course, admittedly, it is easier to remove it locally than to add it
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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    Quoting Darxon:
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    How would you handle sets that contain movies that share some genres?

    There are 3 logical ways to handle the genre(s) of a parent profiles:

  • You leave the field empty for every parent.

  • You list the superset of genres similar to the sum of the run time.

  • You list the smallest common denominator, meaning that you list those genres which are valid for all children.

  • I would vote for the 3rd option. A similar approach is possible for every other field in the parent profile.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    I would vote for 1 on the basis of consistency across the board. Not sometimes genre and sometimes not.

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    Billy Video
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    Quoting skipnet50:
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    I would vote for 1 on the basis of consistency across the board. Not sometimes genre and sometimes not.

    Skip

    All of the 3 ways to handle genres are consistent yet different.

    EDIT: the 2nd and 3rd ways are even consistent to non box set profiles, while the first way is inconsistent in this aspect.
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    i don't think they belong...

    krik

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