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Box Set or DIgipak ?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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AFAIK, we only use the case type "Box Set" for slipcovers that contain seperate keep cases. Everything else is something different.

Where can I find this...? Basically you are saying the Alien Quadrilogy is not "Box Set"...?

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But, we are talking about the parent profile. Not the individual discs contained in the parent. The children for the Alien Quadrilogy currently are setup as digipaks.  We have been using Box Set for quite sometime for the parent, just look at the Godfather Collection and Ultimate Superman Collection. Both of which use Box Set for the parent yet Digipak for the children.

Are there two version fo the Superman Ultimate Collection packaging? I have only seen the tin box so far, and that would clearly be Custom...
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AFAIK, we only use the case type "Box Set" for slipcovers that contain seperate keep cases. Everything else is something different.

Where can I find this...? Basically you are saying the Alien Quadrilogy is not "Box Set"...?


Not Case Type "Box Set", no it isn't.

Just look at the case type thread, you'll find a picture of the digibook used in the first edition of the Alien Quadrilogy, referring to it as a Digipack.
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The case type of the Alien Quadrilogy is "Digipak", not "Box Set". This has to be entered for the parent and the child profiles. The fact that it's a box set in the profiler sense (because you apply the box set rules and should add child profiles) has absolutely nothing to do with the case type entry.

If for any other digipaks the case type is set to "Box Set", the profile is plain wrong and should be corrected, Tracer.
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Ok... Looks like I opened a can of worms here . I agree with the comment that Box Set simply refers to the fact that it's a box with multiple contents, but has nothing to do with the format of this box. BTW, I wonder what Ken himself thinks of all these kinds of discussions. Surely he must have a founded opinion on this as well ?
BTW... when should we then use Box Set as edition ?
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BTW... when should we then use Box Set as edition ?


Only if it's also printed on the cover, just like any other Edition
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Only if it's also printed on the cover, just like any other Edition


Now, this is funny to read it from you . Because I just replied to your Rental Version post where you suggest we should be using a normalized list of Edition tags rather than just copy it from whatever the box says .
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If for any other digipaks the case type is set to "Box Set", the profile is plain wrong and should be corrected, Tracer.


You better start correcting away, there are plenty of parent profiles set as "Box Set". 
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Just look at the case type thread, you'll find a picture of the digibook used in the first edition of the Alien Quadrilogy, referring to it as a Digipack.


Actually the US edition of Alien Quadrilogy is a fold out not a DigiBook, DigiBook would be like the first couple of season of Smallville.
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Only if it's also printed on the cover, just like any other Edition


Now, this is funny to read it from you . Because I just replied to your Rental Version post where you suggest we should be using a normalized list of Edition tags rather than just copy it from whatever the box says .


You're mixing two very different subjects, see my latest post in my thread
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Just look at the case type thread, you'll find a picture of the digibook used in the first edition of the Alien Quadrilogy, referring to it as a Digipack.


Actually the US edition of Alien Quadrilogy is a fold out not a DigiBook, DigiBook would be like the first couple of season of Smallville.



I was referring to the German Edition, but nevertheless, it's a digipack no matter if its a bunch of plastic holders put together or a bunch of fold out cardbox pages with plastic holders
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If for any other digipaks the case type is set to "Box Set", the profile is plain wrong and should be corrected, Tracer.


You better start correcting away, there are plenty of parent profiles set as "Box Set". 

Certainly not in my collection. 
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What I'm missing is last year when we had this same discussion, you agreed that if the digipak movies that are inclosed in a slip case then the parent should be box set.  Now your saying the parent should be digipak since all movies inclosed the slipcase are digipak?

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It could be a single digipak containg several discs (I've got acouple like that) without a slipcase.


That's what I was referring to, if the digipak is inside an outer sleeve, it's a case type "Box Set" of course.
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If for any other digipaks the case type is set to "Box Set", the profile is plain wrong and should be corrected, Tracer.


You better start correcting away, there are plenty of parent profiles set as "Box Set". 

Certainly not in my collection. 


How you handle your collection locally I could care less.  We are discussing the main DB and how the parent profiles should be handled.
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What I'm missing is last year when we had this same discussion, you agreed that if the digipak movies that are inclosed in a slip case then the parent should be box set.  Now your saying the parent should be digipak since all movies inclosed the slipcase are digipak?

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It could be a single digipak containg several discs (I've got acouple like that) without a slipcase.


That's what I was referring to, if the digipak is inside an outer sleeve, it's a case type "Box Set" of course.


Damn, talk about past times coming back to haunt you....

I actually had to re-read that thread a couple of times and spare a couple of thoughts, and I remember changing my perception back then to support indeed a case type "box set" if there's a slipcase present, and calling the children by the actual case type the discs are sored in.

That change of my POV obviously escaped me again in the last 6 months, so you're right, and I didn't think this thing through when answering here earlier:

The Alien Quadrilogy Collection should be have the case type "Box Set" for the parent profile, and "Digipack" for the individual children.

Thanks for pointing me back, Tracer
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i saw this too, shook my head, and locked my profile.

there's a bit of confusion about when "boxset" constitutes the packaging and when it designates the type of release. imho the quadrilogy is digipak; furthering mho, boxset or slipcases should be used only for sets that have multiple keep cases, slim or fat, within them.

i'm ducking now.

krik



Come on, Krik.  You know boxset as a case type is bogus, we've had this discussion several times.  We even had a concensus of sorts under 2.5 to call it a slipcase.  Boxset refers to the content, not the container.



john, i think that's what i was trying to say, perhaps not clearly. Aliens Quad is a boxset in content but not in casetype. was it my comment about the keepcase with a box or as you will slipcase, that may me sound as if my head was not in sunlight?

at any rate. the superman ultimate collection should actually be a tin, but is that even available. i don't own the godfather set, so cannot comment on that.

krik

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According to the Case type thread, it's a digipack if I'm not completely mistaken.

BTW, most digipacks do have an outer sleeve cover, it just wouldnt do to have it flop open all the time....


I completely agree.  Alien Quadrilogy is a single digipak, therefore case type should be digipak.  A box set needs to be more than one (keepcase or digipak) inside an outer box.  otherwise, why not just call a 6-disc keepcase a box set as well?

In order for for the case type for digipaks to be a "boxset", IMO, it needs to be something like Criterion's Eric Rohmer set where there are six single digipaks inside an outer box.

For those saying that anything in a slipcase = boxset, aren't 99.9% of all digipak cases come in a slipcase?  even the single film ones, that only have two discs?  under that logic these would also be boxsets.  we might as well get rid of "digipak" as a case type then.  One digipak (regardless of the length) should not be a "box set" case type.  what about dvds like "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" that is a keepcase inside a slipcase like digipaks usually have.....is that a box set too because it has a slipcase? 

I don't think it is the presence of a slipcase that makes the packaging a "box set".....it's the fact that there are more than one cases (digipak or keepcase) inside that slipcase.
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