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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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I am new to this so i am not sure the proper way to handle it.  I purchased Dragonheart: 2 Legendary Tales , The Franchise Collection. (UPC 025192-468827)  It has Dragonheart on side A and Dragonheart: A New Beginning on side B.  When I typed the UPC I got only basic info so I was going to submit additional info, but was promptly corrected because I forgot this is  considered a "box set" so I immediately withdrew the submission. 
Now the question:  When I add the UPC, it is ok,  when I do side B by Disc ID it is ok, but side A Disc ID is not recognized.  When I add by title, the info and cover art and the contributor are the same as for UPC, and side B.  But my disc ID for side A is different.  Should they be the same? 

For now I have taken the one that is online for side A and changed the Disc ID to mine and have NOT submitted it.  Should I leave it at that or should this be submitted by Disc ID?

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I would submit by Disc ID.  Somone probably used the UPC for the first film and the disc id, from side B, for the second film.  Since they already had a UPC for side A, they simply didn't consider using the disc ID.

This should be set up as a box set in the following manner:

Parent profile using the UPC with the title: Dragonheart: 2 Legendary Tales: The Franchise Collection
Child profile using disc ID from side A with title: Dragonheart
Child profile Usind disc ID from side B with title: Dragonheart: A New Beginning

Use the Box Set rules to help you set them up and feel free to ask for any other help you may need.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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Thanks for the info Unicus69,

But:
The person that submitted it did use the Disc ID for both A and B, it just isn't the same as my Disc ID for side A.  The UPC is the same but not side A.  Side B is the same.  I don't know alot about how they distribute these things so I don't have any idea why the UPC is the same, side B is the same but side A is different??? 
It would make more sense if it was two DVDs but it is one double-sided DVD.

Peabody
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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Thanks for the info Unicus69,

But:
The person that submitted it did use the Disc ID for both A and B, it just isn't the same as my Disc ID for side A.  The UPC is the same but not side A.  Side B is the same.  I don't know alot about how they distribute these things so I don't have any idea why the UPC is the same, side B is the same but side A is different??? 
It would make more sense if it was two DVDs but it is one double-sided DVD.

Peabody
(confused as usual)


If A is different, then you can create your own profile on your ID and submit it, then use the profiles already created for B and the parent.  Update as necessary and you're done.
John

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Thanks for the info Unicus69,

But:
The person that submitted it did use the Disc ID for both A and B, it just isn't the same as my Disc ID for side A.  The UPC is the same but not side A.  Side B is the same.  I don't know alot about how they distribute these things so I don't have any idea why the UPC is the same, side B is the same but side A is different??? 
It would make more sense if it was two DVDs but it is one double-sided DVD.

Peabody
(confused as usual)


My guess, and this is just a guess, is that the original release of this set was to try and get rid of the second film which wasn't very good and they probably had a surplus.  Because the first film was a decent film, they probably had to do an additional 'pressing' to accommodate the set so that might account for the differing disc IDs.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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Well, Rifter I did what you suggested and it was declined.  Maybe something was wrong but it's identical to the one that is online except for the disk ID.  But thanks for all for the info anyway.  Should I have submitted the whole "box set" and not just the one "disc ID"?  I didn't do that because the upc was the same and I thought it would try to change the other submission.

I know the rules state:
"If your Disc ID differs from the Disc ID in the main database, you may change it and re-contribute it if you are doing a wider contribution, but don't make a specific contribution for this reason."
but I am doing it because if someone has this Box Set they can not get the info by using the UPC because that is only for the "box set" and they will not get any info for disc A since it is not recognized.


Peabody
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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Well, Rifter I did what you suggested and it was declined.  Maybe something was wrong but it's identical to the one that is online except for the disk ID.  But thanks for all for the info anyway.  Should I have submitted the whole "box set" and not just the one "disc ID"?  I didn't do that because the upc was the same and I thought it would try to change the other submission.

I know the rules state:
"If your Disc ID differs from the Disc ID in the main database, you may change it and re-contribute it if you are doing a wider contribution, but don't make a specific contribution for this reason."
but I am doing it because if someone has this Box Set they can not get the info by using the UPC because that is only for the "box set" and they will not get any info for disc A since it is not recognized.


Peabody



I would resubmit it after making sure that everything was correct data-wise, then make sure to put a detailed explanation of what you're doing in the notes.  You might also drop a note to Gerri about this particular profile so she can be on the lookout for it.
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I would resubmit it after making sure that everything was correct data-wise, then make sure to put a detailed explanation of what you're doing in the notes. 


You can't enter notes on a new contribution.

Just try again. Occasionally new child profiles get declined for no reason. I had one declined three times before it got accepted.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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Thanks for all the info guys.  I am trying to do the right thing by contributing what I can, but this one is really got me stumped. 
Kevin, maybe that might be an idea for a new feature....allow a "short" note on new contributions.  Limit the size so people are not writing paragraphs of usless info, but just a very short explaination to explain special situations like this.
For example: "Part of single disk box set, UPC matches, DiscID side B matches, DiscID sideA is different..submitting new SideA DiscID." 

Then they could figure out that I am not submitting the whole box set because it would overwrite the existing one and I am not submitting a single disk by ID rather than using the UPC.

Rifter:  I don't even know who Gerri is, nor how to "drop her a note" 

Thanks again for the help, maybe the next guy that buys this DVD will know how to do it.

Peabody
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin Coed
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I wish giving notes on new contributions was mandatory.

Gerri is Ken Cole's wife. She pops up in threads now and then.

How many times has your contribution been rejected? Double check the locality, that the SRP matches the locality and try again.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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Kevin,
The locality is United States, region 1, the SRP is listed as $0.00 because it is part of a "box set". (this matches the info on the case) The SRP is included in the "parent" of the box set. 

I had one withdrawn because I forgot that one DVD with two movies was a "Box set".  skipnet straightened me out and I immediately withdrew it.  That was my mistake. 

Then I changed the Disc ID for side A (using the disk drive,not manually) and submitted the child only (side A) and it was declined.
the only thing I noticed was, when it was submitted it added an "I" to the beginning of the DiscID, is that to identify it as a discID and not UPC?  I don't know what else could be wrong, it is identical to the one online except for the DiscID.  Like I stated before the UPCs match, side B matches, just SideA is different.

Unless I am missing something, I assume they think it is a single movie and not part of an existing "box set"

Peabody

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin Coed
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Try again. As I said, it happens sometimes.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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I just submitted it again, we will see what happens.  I am not allowed to vote on my own submission right?  It would give me a chance to put a reason like "child of box set with a different discID" 

Peabody
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New contributions can't be voted on by anyone.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantPeabody
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On the page with the contribution there is a column for "votes -yes,no"  I recieved one 'no' vote on one I submitted incorrectly and then withdrew.  Is this a 'committee' that is doing the voting?  I don't know a lot about the submissions and voting yet.  I have read the rules but some of it I don't understand.

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This doesn't sound like a new contribution.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but we had a similiar enquiry where it turned out the user had only changed the disc info to the new disc, but not the disc ID or the locality.
If you select the profile, then go to the DVD menu, at the bottom there should be an option called "Change EAN (or UPC), it is here that you need to change the disc ID to match yours. Change Locality if you need it, is just above it in the menu.
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