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So, if both media types are checked for the parent and child profiles, how is the child supposed to be indicated that it is the BD media of the combo package? This has come about because I purchased the 85th anniversary  edition of "The Wizard of OZ." The two discs have different audio and subtitle configurations. And, the special features are different, in that the BD has more than the UHD (typical with combo releases). The parent is supposed to list what the 4K media has and the BD child is supposed to list what it has. But, I don't see a way to indicate that the child is the BD.

I found the following regarding 4K region coding, based upon your link. IMHO, any release that adds region code checking is in violation of the BDA.

https://www.scenarist.com/2023/09/14/technical-bulletin-important-information-regarding-ultra-hd-blu-ray-format/?fbclid=IwAR1fOcgh5V5lvcJynPjmw9JHFk70fjZOX_MjV2y8GCoVVQ43T8gXNoN1GjQ

Ken has written the program based upon the fact that a 4K release is not supposed to be region coded. That is proven out by the fact you cannot set the region code in a 4K only release.
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I was doing some digging regarding audio/subtitle info when dealing with combo releases, specifically 4K/BD releases. It seems, that based on the rules, the audio/subtitle info is supposed to pertain to the main disc in the release. In this case, the 4K disc. But, both disc IDs are supposed to be listed in the profile.

I've not found a section in the rules regarding the media type. If you select both 4K and BD, the region coding will show the code for the BD, since 4K discs do not have region codes. So, should the main 4K profile also have the BD media selected, or not? I've noticed a bug in that if only 4K is selected, the DVD 0 region code is selected, even though nothing should be displayed. But that is a bug that will never end up getting fixed and is beyond the scope of this query.

One should create a child profile based on the BD disc ID in order the list the audio and subtitle differences, then both profiles are placed into a boxed set.

Should the BD child profile only have its disc ID listed? Should only the BD media type be selected? Should the cast/crew list be included in both?

Guidance is appreciated.
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Thanks for the info.
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I'd like to copy and paste Cast/Crew info from two different profiles into a new single profile. I can't find an option to append the 2nd paste of data. It overwrites the 1st. Can this be done?
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There was already a disc profile for the BD in the 4K box set. I updated and submitted the audio/subtitles changes.
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Quoting greyghost:
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However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile."

Thanks for the feedback.
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The Star Trek Section 31 UHD/BD release has different available language soundtracks. The UHD disc has four, while the BD has 12. If there is a contribution rule about this, I've missed it. I haven't checked the subtitles, but I suspect the same issue.

So, are all languages supposed to be listed, or just the ones for the UHD disc? It is a combo package, which to me means both discs are of equal priority. I'm guessing that some people bought the release for the BD, a that is all they currently support, But, in the future (near?) they expect to support UHD.

I've no clue as to why eight languages were not included on the UHD disc. My guess: space. They probably could have released it on a BD-100. Sure, added expense.

Just what is supposed to be listed?

UPDATE: The subtitles are different as well. But, on the BD there are 12 languages to choose from when the playing starts, but when going into settings, there are only six. WTF? The UHD choices are the same at startup and settings.

Again, just what is supposed to be listed?
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Something tells me that the images (especially on the first page) aren't ever going to be fixed.
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Weird, in that all but one of the contributions for this series were approved, but I never saw any votes listed.

What is really weird is that S1-D1 was declined, without any reason, but all of the other discs were approved. So, I have no clue as to what needs to be fixed, or if the decline was a mistake.
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Will do. At this point in time, there are zero votes, one way or the other.
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What does the artwork indicate?
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I have the Aus/NZ release. I don't think that Ken planned for a release to be a box with two, or more, keep cases that do not have a UPC/EAN. What I have done is the only way I know of in order to get the keep case artwork into the database and list the content of those keep cases.

The cast/crew is only listed with the main entry. The disc IDs are listed with the main entry and as children on the two keep cases. So, if you do not want the children, all of the necessary info is part of the main entry.
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I used the first disc in each of the keep cases for the disc ID and made it an alternate, after adding all of the disc IDs, so that an alternate can be created.
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"The 4400" is a little unique in that the box set consists of two HD Keep cases held within the box. I know, that is not unique. What is unique is that the individual keep case artwork does not have a UPC, i.e., they were never released separately as two two-season keep cases. I've contributed the configuration. It ends up being a box set within a box set. You'll see how I've done it, if the contribution gets approved. So far, there aren't any votes one way or the other.
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I don't know of a way to do this. I can't create a unique ID (EAN or disc ID) for the sub-box set "The 4400 S1 & S2" and "The 4400 S3 & S4."

Never mind! Got it.
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I'm going to contribute an alternate EAN for this series as it seems that I have a copy of the re-release, which is packaged differently. Looking at the cover, it is copyright 2021. Blu-ray.com only lists the 2016 release. Does anyone know the 2021 release date or how to enter 2021 as the release date?

Update: Nevermind. Re-release dates are never used, only the original release date.
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Quoting greyghost:
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Alternate IDs will begin with a V (unless in Option, Display you have checked Show UPC/Disc ID variant numbers - then they will display the UPC or Disc ID followed by a # and an number.

Thanks, I set the noted option.
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As to your question about other contributions being accepted, if there were not any NO votes, that would explain it, otherwise ???

What I am trying to say is that the other 7 contributions were excepted, even though they contain the re-released cover art, not the original cover art. Why accept those and not this one?

I did the alternate ID and contributed it.
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Thanks for the update. Just where did you find the text? Then that begs the question, why were the other 7 contributions accepted?

How can you tell that a profile is an alternate ID?

UPDATE: Found the link for vote explanation. Not an obvious link.
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Quoting Voltaire53:
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No Votes always have to state a reason why the person is voting no and you should be able to see this

I've looked in a couple of places. I saw no reason.
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Well, it has already received a no vote, so that appears to be the end of it. I'll never know why the no vote, since the other 7 covers were accepted. I think I'm done contributing.
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One can't create a profile only based upon the title. Contribution not allowed. I therefore used the first disc in order to be able to create the profiles. I've submitted the updated profiles, so we'll see what happens.
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I resubmitted with an explanation as to why I did so. It seems that the cast/crew wasn't different as that was not resubmitted. Weird.
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My image contribution for S2 was declined, yet all of the other seasons were accepted. A later contribution with a completely wrong cover was accepted. I have no idea where that wrong cover came from. All 8 covers were scanned from the Charmed Complete series box set. Also the cast/crew contribution, which appears to have been accepted was ultimately deleted from the following contribution. Even though I told the profiler not to update my local copy of the cast/crew, it did so anyway.

What now?
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I've started the ground work as suggested by @AlunH. I probably have something set wrong because when the profile is created, it sets DVD/BD/4K as the media types. No idea why that isn't detected automatically. Obviously a disc can't be all 3 media types. Also, when I uncheck DVD/4K, the no region setting resorts to region B, based on the UK location. No idea why it does that either, even though I initially set no region.
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Thanks, I'll dig into that more. BTW, the overall collection is already in the database.  Just need to flesh it out.
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