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I didn't submit a vote because the original question was too vague.
If referring to something printed on the spine then none of the above, per the following rules:
• The cover images rule explicitly states not to include the spine in either the front or back image.
• The rule for cover titles explicitly states to use the title from the front cover.
• The edition rule explicitly states to source it from the front/back cover. | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 370 |
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Preserving the historical context of credits is not described anywhere in the rules, but the consequence of rules do have an impact. The "credited as" function for common names does preserve the historical context of cast/crew credits, as does the rule for company names. That is my observation, it is not to be misconstrued as a declaration of the rules.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no common name system for company names (which you are advocating), just a simple rule stating to list studios in order of theatrical release studio/production company(s), a rule stating "Do not abbreviate Studio or media company names" and rules to omit company suffixes and locality-specifix suffix.
The authoratative source for the company name came from the disc, that is, the film credits, so we are told to enter what we see in the credits.
Even so, we are also told to refer to the forums for further information about correct listings of studios and media companies.
And that is exactly what I am doing in this forum. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 17430 |
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COLUMBIA PICTURES CORPORATION OF CALIFORNIA is the production company name and LTD is the suffix.
I believe the opening credits displayed "COLUMBIA PICTURES CORPORATION PRESENTS".
Please note:
• East coast was New York corporation "Columbia Pictures Corporation" that dealt with distribution and costs.
• West Coast (1936-1939) was Columbia Pictures Corporation Of California, Ltd." that dealt with production.
This company was a subsidiary of the New York corporation from 1936-1939.
So the profile should have been configured as:
RELEASE STUDIO ==> Columbia Pictures Corporation
PRODUCTION COMPANY ==> Columbia Pictures Corporation of California
because the rules state not to truncate the company name, which preserves the historical context of the company credit. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 17430 |
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Quoting huskersports:
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... Never in my 18 years using DVD Profiler has ANYONE contributed Paramount Pictures Corporation as a studio name. ...
Hmm, sorry to disappoint, that statement has no veracity, based on my experience with the database.
From my research, majority of Paramount films from the 1950's had no opening presentation credits, just a trademark logo of a mountain surrounded by stars, with either "A Paramount Picture" or "A Paramount Release" overlay, in the opening/end credits:
Screen credits from this decade displayed company name(s) in the film's copyright (typically, Paramount Pictures Corporation), and for independent productions, "A Company Name production" credit. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 17430 |
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Quoting huskersports:
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... Oh, and the British Broadcast Corporation? They have been using that name in every medium (sometimes BBC) since their inception! ...
By your reasoning for the British Broadcasting Corporation (that is the correct name), does that mean the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, which was previously called the Australian Broadcasting Commission, should be truncated to Australian Broadcasting? I don't think so, there is no time dependency on the use of Corporation in the company name. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 17430 |
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[b][/b]Quoting huskersports:
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... Paramount Pictures Corporation has been using Paramount Pictures since their inception.
No, the trade name has been is use since 1914, but, the companies using this trade name has varied, as follows:
Paramount Pictures Corporation (PPC) was founded by W. W. Hodkinson on 08-May-1914. On 15-May-1914, he signed 5-year contract with Famous Players Film Company, the Lasky Feature Play Company and Bosworth, Inc. to distribute their films ==> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Paramount_Pictures
SUMMARY OF COMPANY NAME CHANGES
In 1916, Adolph Zukor bought out PPC and merged Famous Players, the Lasky Company and PPC into Famous Players-Lasky Corporation.
In 1927, name changed to Paramount-Famous Lasky Corporation (01-Apr-1927)
In 1930, name changed to Paramount Publix Corporation (24-Apr-1930)
In 1935, name changed to Paramount Pictures, Inc.
On 31-Dec-1949, company split into Paramount Pictures Corporation (production/distribution) and United Paramount Theaters (exhibition).
In particular:
From 1935 to 1949, trade name and company name matched (Paramount Pictures, Inc.).
From 1914-1916 and 1950 to current (as at 2026), the company name was Paramount Pictures Corporation.
So, if trade name only is shown in the credits, I use the trade name in the profile.
If both trade name and trade name company owner are displayed in the credits, I use the company name (the rules explicitly state to enter company names). | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 17430 |
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"Paramount Pictures" is a registered trademark (owned by Paramount Pictures Corporation): https://uspto.report/TM/76385634
A trademark is not a company name, it is an alternate name to the owner of the trademark.
This was the actual 1998 film credits in question:
00:00;21 > PARAMOUNT PICTURES AND TOUCHSTONE PICTURES PRESENT
00:00:29 > A WILDWOOD ENTERPRISES / SCOTT RUDIN PRODUCTION
01:54:31 > COPYRIGHT ©MCMXCVIII TOUCHSTONE PICTURES AND PARAMOUNT PICTURES CORPORATION
In this film, both trademark and company name were displayed in the film credits and copyright, so company name takes precedence over the trademark for the profile and the rules state - Do not truncate the company name. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 17430 |
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Quoting GreyHulk:
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When did Chris Ellis' Birth Year change to 1949?! Do we need to update the main list?
Quoting ateo357:
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Chris Ellis BY (1956) american actor. Apollo 13, Armageddon, Con Air, Days of Thunder & 30 more. http://industrycentral.net/content/actors/c_ellis.html. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Ellis_(actor). http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0254760/.
Chris Ellis British actor BY (????) 2 episodes of The Young Ones BBC series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3191905/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Ones_(TV_series)#History
Approved 5/21/2012
• Rotten Tomatoes states he was born in Dallas, Texas on 14th April, 1956.
• IMDB states he was born in Memphis, Tennessee on 27th November, 1949.
Which one is correct?.
Well go to the horses mouth here in the interview with actor Chris Ellis, in which he confirmed he was born in Frayser, Memphis, Tennessee (00:50 mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FutM0qSQQU
This link also confirmed he was raised in the Mississippi delta, was 14 years old on February 10, 1964 and began working in film at age 40:
https://www.industrycentral.net/features/working_actors/chris_ellis | Posted: Topic Replies: 5884, Topic Views: 421110 |
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My understanding was the bolded section of the rule you highlighted was for mismatches between the cover title and the credited film title.
But what I was discussing was a screenshot of a film title, presumably from a UK release print, should not be used to ascertain the original title when the country of origin was the USA, as per the rules:
Original Title
The Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title. For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits. For titles released outside their country of origin, use the original release title.
An example would be Marvel's The Avengers from 2012, it was released in the UK as Marvel Avengers Assemble. | Posted: Topic Replies: 7, Topic Views: 1338 |
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Above screenshot was not indicative of the release title in the film's country of origin (namely, USA). The UK cinema title was "AVP - Alien Vs. Predator".
The film was an American production (Davis Entertainment Company, Brandywine Productions) with co-production from [UK, CZECH, CANADA, GERMANY].
The theatrical title used in the United States was "Alien vs. Predator", corroborated as follows:
• CARA film rating.
• U.S. copyright registration.
• IMDB release info for United States.
The only countries that used "AVP: Alien vs. Predator" in the cinemas were Australia, Ecuador, Finland, Hong Kong, India, Phillipines, Romania, South Africa and United Kingdom.
The original title should be "Alien vs. Predator". | Posted: Topic Replies: 7, Topic Views: 1338 |
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| This was previously discussed here in far more depth, without reaching a consensus. | Posted: Topic Replies: 3, Topic Views: 906 |
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Quoting MrVideo:
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Quoting Rutan:
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For example, of a region locked 4K disc does not play on Australian 4K player same goes for the BD.
I think a distributor that creates a region locked UHD disc that breaks the spirit of the no region coding are nasty and that such a release should be returned as defective.
There may be licensing restrictions that are forcing the distributor to do this. | Posted: Topic Replies: 12, Topic Views: 2401 |
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Quoting MrVideo:
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So, if both media types are checked for the parent and child profiles, how is the child supposed to be indicated that it is the BD media of the combo package?
The primary media (4K) profile will have both media types enabled (as per combo set rules) whilst the child profile (BD) will have "Blu-ray" media type enabled, as per standard contribution rules.
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I found the following regarding 4K region coding, based upon your link. IMHO, any release that adds region code checking is in violation of the BDA.
https://www.scenarist.com/2023/09/14/technical-bulletin-important-information-regarding-ultra-hd-blu-ray-format/?fbclid=IwAR1fOcgh5V5lvcJynPjmw9JHFk70fjZOX_MjV2y8GCoVVQ43T8gXNoN1GjQ
Whilst PSR20 (Player Setting Register 20) is the standard method used by Blu-ray Java to query a player's region, distributor's can potentially implement regional restrictions on 4K discs using several "unofficial" or secondary software-based methods and still be compliant (that is, not use PSR20):
• query the player's country code (PSR19)
• query the player's Java system properties
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The combo set rule (at bottom of page) states to enter as a normal profile for the main media type, with included media types checked.
A normal profile means standard contribution rules are applied to the main media type profile, so if there was a bonus material disc or bonus feature film disc in the combo set, they are also added to the main media profile.
The child Blu-ray is also subject to standard contribution rules, however, you cannot add this optional child profile to the 4K parent profile if the parent's Blu-ray media type is disabled (the screeners will decline this change).
4K Ultra HD is an enhanced extension of the Blu-ray standard, so the potential exists for some 4K discs to be region coded. | Posted: Topic Replies: 12, Topic Views: 2401 |
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Don't forget my confirmations from January 22, 2026.
Please note the film "They Rode West" from 1954 was not previously listed. | Posted: Topic Replies: 35, Topic Views: 20207 |
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• The Dakotas: The Complete Series, Episode 20 (TV series) FRANK de KOVA
• They Rode West (1954) Frank DeKova | Posted: Topic Replies: 35, Topic Views: 20207 |
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The invelos.com domain name was originally hosted with COMCAST using IP address 173.167.34.141, and was due to expire on 11-May-2025.
From 16-Mar-2025, it appears this domain name hosting was transferred to IONOS INC. (Pennsylvania - Philadelphia), using IP address 74.208.214.200, with an expiry date of 11-May-2028.
The IONOS domain transfer deal offered nil transfer fee and free SSL certificate for each account, so it wasn't surprising to see Ken Cole implement SSL for this domain name.
From what I have read, the outage of this domain name in mid-January, 2026 was a consequence of a planned maintenance activity on the IONOS cloud server cluster based in Berlin, Germany that caused an unforeseen network instability with their gateway/core routers (BGP sessions failing and flapping). | Posted: Topic Replies: 2, Topic Views: 1440 |
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My understanding is the rules for title apply to the title from the front cover only.
The rule for Original Title states to use the title from the film's credits.
It also states "In cases where the title is the original title, leave the Original Title field blank."
EXAMPLES:
• If the cover title was "X" then change cover title to X and add the original title "X".
• If the cover title was X then we add the original title "X".
• If the cover title was "X": The Man With the X-Ray Eyes then we add the original title "X".
As a result of the cover title rules, the cover title will never match an original film title fully enclosed in quotes.
Hope that provided some clarity on the matter. | Posted: Topic Replies: 3, Topic Views: 1149 |
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Its all about context, was it contiguous or was it clearly separate from the title.
It reminds me of the discussion on "3D" on the front cover, when Ken Cole confirmed its correct usage in the cover title. For me, the edition needs to be clearly segregated from the title.
That's why I voted YES to title. | Posted: Topic Replies: 19, Topic Views: 4510 |
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Both volumes (191329-204207 and 191329-231616) were digibook (with slip cover) box sets with the same cover title.
The cover title entered in both box parent profiles was "Universal Classic Monsters: Icons of Horror Collection", there was no edition name.
Since the parent and child discs use the same slip covers, how can the child disc have an edition name when the parent doesn't have an edition name? The assumption the second volume disc profiles were correctly configured is questionable. | Posted: Topic Replies: 6, Topic Views: 1745 |
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| I just hope the screener is not confusing media types to include bonus material disc media. We shall see. | Posted: Topic Replies: 3, Topic Views: 1478 |
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Whilst you are correct, you need to change the existing profile from a 4K/Blu-ray combo set configuration to a 4K only configuration.
I would suggest writing your amendment as follows:
Current profile was incorrectly configured as a 4K/Blu-ray combo set, the back cover clearly specified a single 4K feature disc with a Blu-ray bonus material disc .
• disabled Blu-ray media check box
• removed Blu-ray (Main Feature) disc info
• features as found on 4K disc and Blu-ray bonus material disc, as per normal 2-disc profile configuration.
Hope that helps. | Posted: Topic Replies: 3, Topic Views: 1478 |
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Quoting ObiKen:
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I believe "Loew's Incorporated" was the correct name. It was formed by Marcus Loew in 1924. Incorporated was not a suffix here, it was part of the name as denoted by the possessive apostrophe.
Correction: "Loew's Incorporated" was formed by Marcus Loew in 1919. | Posted: Topic Replies: 2, Topic Views: 3523 |
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| I believe "Loew's Incorporated" was the correct name. It was formed by Marcus Loew in 1924. Incorporated was not a suffix here, it was part of the name as denoted by the possessive apostrophe. | Posted: Topic Replies: 2, Topic Views: 3523 |
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The copyright registration for the film's screenplay (dated 24-Jun-2015) used the title Boyka: Undisputed IV:
https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/voyager_28434635
However, the copyright registration for the motion picture (dated 29-Mar-2017) used the title Boyka Undisputed 4:
https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/voyager_28992956
The film's supplemental copyright registration (dated 22-Aug-2023) used the same title, Boyka Undisputed 4:
https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/voyager_35957388 | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 2426 |