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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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I agree. The "boxset" does not have a "Production Studio", therefore, adding one to its profile would be entering incorrect data! A "no" vote would be required, IMHO.
I agree that the packaging does not have a production studio. But box set profiles do not only cover the packaging. The packaging does not have a run time or a production year as well. But those are mandatory by the rules. Personally, I'd be fine with leaving out both of those fields, as you are absolutely correct. They do not apply to the parent profile. The problem is that the Rules currently define specifically what to enter into those fields (runtime and production year), so they must be entered that way. You cannot say the same about the "Studios" field. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
because of your persistent combative attitude.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | The way I see it the rules for boxsets tells us...
what to include:
- Title
- Production Year
- Running Time
- Rating
- Overview
And they tell us...
What Not to Include:
- Disc IDs
- Easter Eggs
- Credits
- Subtitles
- Audio
- Disc Features
So when it comes to something that isn't mentioned in the rules people are free to submit it per Rules since it isn't covered yet. But at the same time people have that same right to vote against it as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The way I see it the rules for boxsets tells us...
what to include:
- Title
- Production Year
- Running Time
- Rating
- Overview
And they tell us...
What Not to Include:
- Disc IDs
- Easter Eggs
- Credits
- Subtitles
- Audio
- Disc Features
So when it comes to something that isn't mentioned in the rules people are free to submit it per Rules since it isn't covered yet. But at the same time people have that same right to vote against it as well. Correct, Pete. Let me try and clarify my view of you Rho. Since this is a perfect example. First you come to this discussion relatively late in the game, then you take a position which clearly is not only against the poll but also against the way most of us have been doing it for YEARS. And you are combative about it. You try and spin your position and even go so far as to try and make4 it appear that you are following the Rules, which is a real laugher, as Pete noted. I ask myself why and my conclusion is that you love to find holes in the Rules where you can inject your preference, that might be wrong, but you have a long history of seeming to look for them, and then simply creating an argument.<shrugs> | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
So when it comes to something that isn't mentioned in the rules people are free to submit it per Rules since it isn't covered yet. Well, I still contend that it is contrary to the Rules to add data to a profile that is not accurate for that profile. A "Movie boxset" does not have a "Theatrical Release" or "Production" studio....period. To add one would be putting incorrect data into the profile. That's my take, anyway! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The way I see it the rules for boxsets tells us...
what to include:
- Title
- Production Year
- Running Time
- Rating
- Overview
And they tell us...
What Not to Include:
- Disc IDs
- Easter Eggs
- Credits
- Subtitles
- Audio
- Disc Features
So when it comes to something that isn't mentioned in the rules people are free to submit it per Rules since it isn't covered yet. But at the same time people have that same right to vote against it as well. I didn't think of it that way - thank you Pete. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Let me try and clarify my view of you Rho. Since this is a perfect example. First you come to this discussion relatively late in the game, 12th post on page 1. Six ours after the first post. Is that already late? Quote:
then you take a position which clearly is not only against the poll So what? Quote:
but also against the way most of us have been doing it for YEARS.
Not true! I have several studios in my box set profiles which have not entered by myself. And this discussion has come up several times over the past years. Every time with no real consensus. Quote:
And you are combative about it. You try and spin your position and even go so far as to try and make4 it appear that you are following the Rules, Which I do (following the rules, not being combative), also confirmed by other users. Quote:
which is a real laugher, as Pete noted. I ask myself why and my conclusion is that you love to find holes in the Rules where you can inject your preference, that might be wrong, but you have a long history of seeming to look for them, and then simply creating an argument.<shrugs> While you may think about me whatever you want, this is not true. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Rho:
You may not like it, simply my observations and i stand by them. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
A "Movie boxset" does not have a "Theatrical Release" or "Production" studio....period.
That's why the rules ask us to enter the earliest production year (as defined as theatrical release for profiler purposes). No reason not to enter studios. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The way I see it the rules for boxsets tells us... what to include: (...) No, they tell us which fields have to be entered in a different way than for "normal" profiles. Quote:
And they tell us... What Not to Include: (...)
Correct! Quote:
So when it comes to something that isn't mentioned in the rules people are free to submit it per Rules since it isn't covered yet. But at the same time people have that same right to vote against it as well. Not really! For all the fields not mentioned in the specific box set rules, the normal rules do apply. One example is the release date. It is not mentioned in the box set rules, but we definitely want to track this data in the parent profile according to the rest of the rules. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Except that they are outside the Rules, and like I said you are free to do that, but you also have to understand that the minute you include data which is specified by the Rules, then you free ALL voters to view the data in that context and vote their conscience on it, Rho. I don't care how you spin it, Rho, Studios are NOT specified under Boxset Rules...though they should be and the only rational answer is the Distributor (MC) not any Studio for any reason. Following your logic based on the contents of the set, introduces a conditional, a completely unnecessary conditional.
You can't step outside the Rules with your data and then expect the Rules to protect you from people who will vote their conscience against yours.<shrugs>
In other words IF all the Studio data within the Boxset is the same THEN list it with the parent, IF it is not the same, THEN list the Distributor (MC) That's a conditional, or we can say simply using my logic or Pete's or a combination of the two. For a Boxset Parent simply the Distributor, golly which one is clearer and easiet to deal with, boy that one's really hard, One simp,e statement or TWO separate If Thens. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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A "Movie boxset" does not have a "Theatrical Release" or "Production" studio....period.
That's why the rules ask us to enter the earliest production year (as defined as theatrical release for profiler purposes). No reason not to enter studios. The "Production Year" field has nothing whatever to do with the "Studio" field. Not sure what your point is?  | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You aren't alone, Hal | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting RHo:
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Quoting hal9g:
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A "Movie boxset" does not have a "Theatrical Release" or "Production" studio....period.
That's why the rules ask us to enter the earliest production year (as defined as theatrical release for profiler purposes). No reason not to enter studios.
The "Production Year" field has nothing whatever to do with the "Studio" field.
Not sure what your point is? You have stated that a box set has no theatrical release. I have stated that it has for profiler purposes. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | RHo,
Would you also add the aspect ratio and other video info along with the genre to the "boxset" profile if it were the same for all of the movies contained therein?
These fields are also "not mentioned" in the boxset Rules, so applying your approach, you should also enter them, shouldn't you? | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting RHo:
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Quoting hal9g:
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A "Movie boxset" does not have a "Theatrical Release" or "Production" studio....period.
That's why the rules ask us to enter the earliest production year (as defined as theatrical release for profiler purposes). No reason not to enter studios.
The "Production Year" field has nothing whatever to do with the "Studio" field.
Not sure what your point is?
You have stated that a box set has no theatrical release. I have stated that it has for profiler purposes. No, I said there is no "Theatrical Release" studio associated with a box set. | | | | Hal |
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