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How to prevent accidental contributions
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantastage
Registered: June 26, 2007
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Before realising that DVD Profiler was primarily a 'commercial DVD' database, I added quite a number of my own recordings, some personal and others recordings of broadcast films that I wanted to keep - many not yet released as DVDs.  My question is: How do I prevent any of these being accidentially uploaded.

The FAQ in the help-system says:
"I create my own DVDs and would like to add them to DVD Profiler. Can I?
Absolutely! Just add them by title, and deselect Download profile from Invelos. Note: DVDs added this way will appear in your online My Profiler collection, but cannot be contributed to the main online DVD Profiler database."
However, if I have already downloaded the profile (and then made changes to suit my own private recording), that option is no longer possible.

Similarly, if you notice differences betwen the profile contributed by someone else and the version that you have in your hands, but don't feel anything would be gained by contributing those differences.  How do you prevent changes made to your own database profile ever being contributed.  Two example I've found are: Cover scans being different and missing Audio Tracks.
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Manual DVDs can't be contributed by the program, because there will be no UPC code or Disc ID assigned to the profile - so don't worry.
If you think you may have accidentally added a UPC or ID, delete them and this should make sure all your home-made DVDs stay local.
I have plenty in my own collection and never had a problem, so it should be fine! 

Edit: just noticed what you said about changing an online profile - again, removing the UPC code should solve this problem.

As contributing is not an automatic system - you have to tell the program to contribute - accidents should be few and far between.
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In any case, if a contribution is made accidentally, it can always be withdrawned before it's processed.
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Edit: just noticed what you said about changing an online profile - again, removing the UPC code should solve this problem.



You can't remove the UPC, the program doesn't allow it.

The only way to ensure you don't contribute is to create a manual title then copy the data across. It's not as hard as you think as you can copy the big things (cast/crew/overview) as well as most of the individual fields. It's just the drop downs you have to repopulate 'manually'.

But as has already been said the contribution is not automatic, you have to consciously choose to submit and they can be withdrawn if you do it by mistake.
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Edit: just noticed what you said about changing an online profile - again, removing the UPC code should solve this problem.



You can't remove the UPC, the program doesn't allow it.

The only way to ensure you don't contribute is to create a manual title then copy the data across. It's not as hard as you think as you can copy the big things (cast/crew/overview) as well as most of the individual fields. It's just the drop downs you have to repopulate 'manually'.

But as has already been said the contribution is not automatic, you have to consciously choose to submit and they can be withdrawn if you do it by mistake.


With all the questions you have to answer about the origin of the data, contributing "by mistake" is no longer an option.
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Edit: just noticed what you said about changing an online profile - again, removing the UPC code should solve this problem.


You can't remove the UPC, the program doesn't allow it.

The only way to ensure you don't contribute is to create a manual title then copy the data across. It's not as hard as you think as you can copy the big things (cast/crew/overview) as well as most of the individual fields..


Thank you all for your advice!

It took a couple of days of cursing the missing feature before I discovered the right click "Copy all Cast/Crew" facility 

In each instance where I've initially used the EAN (or title) to obtain the DVD-profile of a broadcast film/programme, I've then replaced the EAN with the disk-ID obtained from my recordable DVD.  Doing this does prevent downloading of updates to the DVD-profile, so I hope that this will also prevent changes being uploaded to the database.
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I don't know why nobody has suggested it, but I assume this works:

Under 'General Info' where there's the hand with the disc (i.e. Contribute) if you right-click on that you have options "Contribute" and "Never Contribute".  I'm not sure it actually stops you from contributing, but it makes it less likely (the hand-disc greys out).
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"How to prevent accidental contributions?"

Use a computer condom.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantastage
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...Under 'General Info' where there's the hand with the disc (i.e. Contribute) if you right-click on that you have options "Contribute" and "Never Contribute".  I'm not sure it actually stops you from contributing, but it makes it less likely (the hand-disc greys out).

Thanks W0m6at, that was an unexpected/well hidden find - even if it was staring me in the face.  I'll have to spend a couple of days clicking left and right on every icon/option in the entire program to see what else is there.
However,..... the 'Never Contribute' setting appears to be deactivated if you make a change to the profile, so I'm not sure I have that much faith in it.
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You can't remove the UPC, the program doesn't allow it.

The only way to ensure you don't contribute is to create a manual title then copy the data across.

You could as well change the UPC to anything illegal. I would propose any number with less than 12 digits or more than 13 digits. My pseudo manual profiles have a UPC of 001, 002 etc. Those profiles can't be contributed as well. Or at least they are automatically declined.
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"Never Contribute" does NOT prevent contributing, it simply removes the reminder that you have uncontributed changes.
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It fits the thread title, so I'll add this:


Just now I noticed that I have a pending contribution for "Freaks and Geeks: The Complete Series".

I don"t know how it got there, as I have not made it consciously; accordingly there are no Contribution Notes. However, there is also no Withdraw link   (Also: it is not shown as "Received")

(Going to send PM to Ken...)
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It fits the thread title, so I'll add this:


Just now I noticed that I have a pending contribution for "Freaks and Geeks: The Complete Series".

I don"t know how it got there, as I have not made it consciously; accordingly there are no Contribution Notes. However, there is also no Withdraw link  

(Going to send PM to Ken...)

Sounds like a cancelled contribution at the web stage - they still appear in the list, but with no "received" in either profile or images.
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Sounds like a canceled contribution at the web stage - they still appear in the list, but with no "received" in either profile or images.

Hmmm, but since I never even hit neither the Submit nor the cancel button on the contribution webpage, how would it get to my contribution list? Does it get auto contributed if you take no action on that page for a certain time? (I certainly don't hope so.)
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I pm'd Ken about the same problem earlier this week.  I did however contributed and then and then just closed the web page without confirming.  As Lopek said, it stayed there with no status, no notes and no withdraw button.

What bothered me though is that other users could see it, someone even pm'd me about it.
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Unless a contribution gets created as soon as the contribute button is hit in the program and so gets into the list as you get to the web-confirmation stage?

Then the submit button adds the detail you select to that created contribution, and the cancel button does nothing but navigates to a info page, but leaves the (empty) created contribution there?

If it does not include anything "recieved" then it is harmless - if untidy.

Edit: Was not aware that users could see them as Touti highlighted, so while seemingly harmless to the main database, something that needs tweeking imo.
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