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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | It has come to my attention due to "Child Profiles" contained in a Non-UK Locality that have Identical DISC ID's to a profile I have in my wish list, that some people are submitting profiles from TV Series whereby the main case is a slipcase containing THINpak's or keepcases, where each Thin/keep holds two disc's, are being contributed as
1 DISC ID but holding the Data which belongs to the 2 DVD's inside that case.
Instead of
1 DISC ID just the DATA on that DISC ID, which should result in 2 child profiles from that case.
ie as with
Title:- Battlestar Galactica: Season Three
EAN:- 5050582499094
slipcase containing 3 THINpak's which when child profiling results in 6 individual profiles
DISC ID:- Episodes 1-4 DISC ID: 39C2-AFD1-61E7-D8F1
DISC ID:- Episodes 5-8 DISC ID: 49B4-2277-26EA-D5E1
DISC ID:- Episodes 9-12 DISC ID: E8E9-A6B6-1BDD-2FBE
DISC ID:- Episodes 13-16 DISC ID: EC05-A758-9D22-E275
DISC ID:- Episodes 17-20 DISC ID: 49B4-2277-26EA-D5E1
DISC ID:- The Story So Far DISC ID: E501-FA99-44FB-38FF
under the way I have been informed some of our European compatriots’ would supply these as
1 Parent Profile
and Just 3 Child Profiles with each child profile containing 2 Disc's worth of data.
Please Note I have used this Profile as an example.
The main area's I was informed about where Finland and France Localities?
Since with Child Profiles there is a real possibility that the same DISC ID's are going to be used for many Localities it maybe prudent to ensure these are submitted in accordance with the Rules. Yes I know we don't have to submit child profiles, but those who are must make sure that they are being submitted in the correct format.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is a similar problem to the one where a "Complete Series" package is marketed with all the "seasons" (using US terms) after the individual seasons have already been marketed separately. In this case, the "complete series" only has a UPC/EAN for the entire box and each "season" has been entered with the disc id of Disc 1 for that season.
In the instance you mention, I don't know which (if either) is "correct" -- counting the number of discs or the number of cases. A compromise would be to have 6 profiles online:
Profile 1: Disc 1 and Disc 2
Profile 2: Disc 2 only
Profile 3: Disc 3 and Disc 4
Profile 4: Disc 4 only
Profile 5: Disc 5 and Disc 6
Profile 6: Disc 6 only
That way, if one wanted only 3 "case" children he/she could download Profiles 1,3 and 5.
If someone wanted 6 "disc" children he/she could download all 6 and then locally delete the Disc 2 data from Profile 1, Disc 4 data from Profile 3, and Disc 6 data from Profile 5. Then he/she'd have 6 child profiles with only one disc's data in each. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting snarbo: Quote:
(...) there is a real possibility that the same DISC ID's are going to be used for many Localities (...) Even though the disc ids may be the same in two different localities, the profiles are not. Every disc id locality combination gets its own profile. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
... In the instance you mention, I don't know which (if either) is "correct" -- counting the number of discs or the number of cases.... So you know... per rules it is correct to profile per disc. Not per case. Rules Quote: Quote:
Individual profiles for each disc may be submitted if desired, but this is not required. Add these profiles to the box set contents of the parent profile. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case. When submitting a change to an existing TV series profile that is currently a box set, do not remove the existing contents.
In either case, the cast and crew are to be entered into the parent profile using appropriate episode dividers. Bold by me... as you can see it says above profilers for each disc. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Indeed it does and that is how it should be done.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
So you know... per rules it is correct to profile per disc. Not per case.
Rules Quote:
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Individual profiles for each disc may be submitted if desired, but this is not required. Add these profiles to the box set contents of the parent profile. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case. When submitting a change to an existing TV series profile that is currently a box set, do not remove the existing contents.
In either case, the cast and crew are to be entered into the parent profile using appropriate episode dividers.
Bold by me... as you can see it says above profilers for each disc. I did point the user to this particular part of the Rules. Will have to wait and see if anything is done about it though. Steve |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Fortunately, it is easier to split a profile than to combine them. So moving some of the existing non-compliant profiles in the "per disc" direction would not be too much of an effort.
Although for cast and crew it remains a lot of work. Wouldn't it be nice for example, if when you enter an actor or crew (where after a few letters you can pick from a list), the role would be tentatively filled in from other instances of that same actor in other episodes in the same list? | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | I recently submiitted Child Profiles for Discs 2 and 4 for "I Dream of Jeannie, First Season (Color)".
Still in the database are Child Profiles for Discs1&2 and Discs3&4. I have individual profiles available for Discs 1 and 3, but these have of course the same Disc IDs.
Should I now contribute these and overwrite 1&2 with 1 and 3&4 with 3?
A similar cleanup action may be required for Wings, The Complete First & Second Season, where not the discs, but the boxes have been profiled. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is what the Rules say to do, Staid, by the disc not by the case, overwrite them.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | exactly... per rules it needs to be profiled per disc not per case.
Though I do agree that you should have the new profiles in the system before erasing the info that is already there. And I would also make sure to put into the notes that the new discs are in the system per rules. | | | | Pete |
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| | Posted: | | | | One of the sets for Boston Legal is (Season 2, I believe) in the database as Disc 1&2, Disc 3&4. At least that's the way it was there when I downloaded the child profiles. I think only Season 3 has disc profiles for the whole set. Maybe that's what I'll tackle next. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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