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Double Feature Set
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
Registered: May 15, 2008
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I have a double feature set consisting of "The Day After Tomorrow" and "Volcano".  The UPC for the Double Feature set is not in the database but when I check the Disc IDs, each movie is in the database as separate disc entries under different UPC numbers.  Is there an easy way to combine the existing data from the existing individual entries and use it as the base for my Double Feature set that has a UPC not in the database?  I know how to use one movie as a base and change the UPC but I do not know how to combine two different movies under one new UPC number.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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It can be done, I don't know how easy it is, I guess it depends on your skill level. It is a little complex, at least in terms of description so I won't even try, there are others that do better at such explanations than myself. I will say that anytime you copy a profile, I urge extreme caution, especially if you plan to contribute the data, do NOT simply copy and Contribute, there are many profiles that are inerror for a variety of reasons, so once you copy a profile, if you are planning Contribute, check the copied data against the film data for accuracy.

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Is this two movies on One DVD (single side) or two movies (one each side of a DVD) or two movies two DVD's?

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
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Is this two movies on One DVD (single side) or two movies (one each side of a DVD) or two movies two DVD's?
Steve


The Double Feature set is one single Keep Case, containing two DVDs, one movie on each DVD.  That is why the Disc IDs match already contributed movies but the UPC and cover images don't.

Here's the
front cover
and
back cover
of my Double Feature.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
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*snip* check the copied data against the film data for accuracy.
Skip


Yes, I always do this.  I'm in Canada so a lot of stuff like locality, prices, release dates, languages, even studios and cover images are not the same.  Usually the cast and crew is the same though and having that as a base saves a lot of time.  But I do check everything when building a new entry from an existing UPC.
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Quoting Mardon:
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Quoting snarbo:
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Is this two movies on One DVD (single side) or two movies (one each side of a DVD) or two movies two DVD's?
Steve


The Double Feature set is one single Keep Case, containing two DVDs, one movie on each DVD.  That is why the Disc IDs match already contributed movies but the UPC and cover images don't.

Here's the
front cover
and
back cover
of my Double Feature.


In this case it is classed as a "Box Set"
Create a Profile for the main Keepcase
Download from the main database the profiles for the two individual films via the Disc ID's
Edit the newly created main profile
In edit mode find the box set contents (approx 2/3's of the way down)
add the two profiles that you downloaded by the Disc ID's.
you now have your box set (main profile + 2 child profiles(the 2 by Disc ID)).
If you wish to enter the main profile intop the database for others to down load read up on the Rules mainly the section detailing about "box sets" this will inform you of what will be expected in the main profile.
As its a main proflie no cast or crew they stay in the child profiles.

That will get you started for now.

Steve
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You could also download other box sets into your Wish List from the main database to see how the majority are compiled a few to look for:-

Indiania Jones (set) - 097361370743
Alien Quadrilogy (4 movie set) - 024543098478
Superman Ultimate Collection - 085391165262
The Star Wars Collection (3 movies) - 086162029349

Steve

edited to include some UPC's
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You could also download other box sets into your Wish List from the main database to see how the majority are compiled a few to look for:


I downloaded all of these and it helps a bit but the 'box set' profile alone doesn't tell me a whole lot.  None of these profiles had any items listed under the "Box set contents".  I guess because the content DVDs are not in my local database alothough that's just a guess.  The "Overview" secton of the box set profile did list the names of the individual movies though.  I would have thought when downloading a box set profile, the individual DVDs linked to the box set contents would have downloaded along with the box set profile but they didn't.

What I'm really not clear about with the "Double Feature" 'boxed set, is that there is no cover art for the individual movie DVDs.  If I create a seperate entry for each of these DVDs/movies and then add each of those to the contents of the box set profile, there will be no cover art for the individual DVD entries.  In most boxed sets there would be.  Is this OK?  Sorry to be so dumb about this.  Thanks for you help.
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In the case of these double feature "box sets", we apply the main images to the child profiles.  So, in this case you'd have three total entries, all with the same images.  A parent entry indentified by UPC for the box set and two child entries identified by disk ID.

You are correct that downloading a box set parent will not automatically grab the children.  If you own a box set, you enter that UPC in to grab the parent and then pop in the individual disks to download the children.  You then must edit the parent profile to add the children to the box set contents.  There are a mountain of double feature box sets available to use as models.

013131-267792  The Abominable Snowman/Shatter: The Hammer Collection Double Feature
FB77326157CE2300  The Abominable Snowman: The Hammer Collection
69C62E255F7B4AEA  Shatter: The Hammer Collection

The above set is probably more along the lines of what you are dealing with.

Note that the SRP on the children is 0.  That's because they are individual disks entered by ID and the true cost is covered by the parent, entered by UPC.

And remember, after downloading the 3 profiles, you still have to edit the parent to add the two children under box set contents.  When you're finished, you'll get a little plus symbol next to the parent profile that expands to show the children underneath.
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013131-267792  The Abominable Snowman/Shatter: The Hammer Collection Double Feature
FB77326157CE2300  The Abominable Snowman: The Hammer Collection
69C62E255F7B4AEA  Shatter: The Hammer Collection

Thanks midnitoil.  Your comments, and especially the example you provided, have been very helpful.  I think I now understand how to do this.  I'm surprised that the same cover images are used on the children as well as the main profile.  I was thinking about doing that but it didn't seem right.  I also considered 'cutting' the cover art from the main profile so that only the part applying to the appropriate child would be used for that entry.  I guess that's not the way to do it based on your comments.  I'll use the same art for the main profile and the children as you suggest.  Thanks.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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I'm surprised that the same cover images are used on the children as well as the main profile.  I was thinking about doing that but it didn't seem right.  I also considered 'cutting' the cover art from the main profile so that only the part applying to the appropriate child would be used for that entry.  I guess that's not the way to do it based on your comments.  I'll use the same art for the main profile and the children as you suggest.  Thanks.

Within the contents of the package you are profiling, there are no other images available to use.  There may be 3 profiles getting created here, but there is still only one cover.

If you are attempting to recycle existing profiles as child records, be sure to change the locality and the UPN.  The new UPN should simply be the disk ID.  If you fail to do these things, when you upload the rest of us will see them as changes to existing profiles rather than brand new profiles.
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Downloading the child profiles along with the parent profile has been requested as a new feature for the program several times. We can only hope the next release will include such a feature.

Child profiles only get their own cover art if the discs have their own packaging - they then get the art from that packaging. If they don't, you are to use the cover art from the parent profile. The reason for this is that DVDP works on the basis of the principle that information on a profile for a particular release should come from that very same release, not from external sources.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
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Thanks again to all of you for your help.  I understand much better now how 'Double Feature' sets should be profiled.  I also want to acknowledge that I understand the dangers of using an existing profile as a template for a new profile.  And I know that those dangers exist whether I'm making a new top-level profile or a child profile.  Whenever I use an existing database entry as a template, I try my best to make sure that all the data gets changed that needs to be changed.  It's usually the cast, crew and overview information that stays the same.  Since I'm in Canada, the locality almost always needs to be changed and, of course, the SRP and often the release date.  Audio and subtitle information also needs changed on occasion.  The disc IDs are often missing and I add them.  In summary, I want to thank everyone you’re your help and to offer reassurance that I do my best to only upload accurate profiles.  If I'm uncertain about one, I don't upload it.
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Glad to be of help.
If you feel there is something your sure about with a contribution somebody here in the forum's maybe able to help point you in the right direction.

Steve
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