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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsilentsign
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Registered: May 18, 2007
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Hi together!

In the last few weeks (maybe months) the SRP for several DVDs and Blu-rays were contributed with the source "bookbutler.com/.ch/.de/.co.uk/.at" and I always was voting "neutral", because I didn't know about this source and also didn't know if they were right or wrong.

But now there is a point where I in person worked on a (german) Blu-ray release (with EAN 4042564169331 - "AUF MESSERS SCHNEIDE - RIVALEN AM ABGRUND"/"THE EDGE") and in one of the last contribution (which was declined later) was a new SRP metioned - also with this source.

In this case I knew, that this SRP was definitivley wrong. Bookbutler says "26,18 €", but in fact it was "17,99 €" at release (recommended retail price and also price in several shops - e.g. ofdb.de or shop.mueller.de).

The problem is not, that this contribution was declined because of the SRP and my negative vote, but other contributions with this source are already in the database.

So I recommend not to contribute prices from this source in the future.
They are not valid in my opinion and often terribly wrong.

So what's your point of view?


Regards!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbbbbb
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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They are not valid in my opinion and often terribly wrong.

So what's your point of view?

Germans. They add dozens of uncredited local distributor people to Cast. And all you are worried about is the most unnecessary data field that we have?
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
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in some countries SRP's are easier to find and document than in others, in my experience. In the USA and the UK it's fairly easy, in your country and mine it is much more difficult.

In any case, I would be wary of figures like € 26.18 - these seem unlikely SRP amounts. And even more so in countries like Germany where they are difficult to validate.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSwissFilm
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Registered: May 16, 2010
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Most SRP's in Germany are from:
http://www.bookbutler.de/movie/search?keyword=4042564169331
as an example for a film.

For me this is one of the only souces for German films where I can proove it. When you enter an SRP you have to give a link where you got it from. It's not enough to open a profile with an SRP not prooven, even not documented and it's not enough to write from the vendors site. Then give a link, that we can go and look it, otherwise everybody can write what he wants and you have to believe it or not.

I must agree with bbbbb, the most useless field is the SRP. But exactly due to this and above link to proove it I got a decline. I had a lot of corrections in this contribution, not only the until now not documented SRP, also Crew and Cast, all has gone now because of an SRP and you can be sure, I will not contribute these good changes again, so we have now a bad profile for a long time or even forever due to this. But who cares and in my collection I have it good, this counts for me.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsilentsign
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Registered: May 18, 2007
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Quoting silentsign:
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They are not valid in my opinion and often terribly wrong.

So what's your point of view?

Germans. They add dozens of uncredited local distributor people to Cast. And all you are worried about is the most unnecessary data field that we have?


I totally agree with you. And I'm german.

I hate (and I mean it!) uncredited local distributor people in the cast, but when I pointed that out in another topic, I was screamed down by other who liked this shiitake mushroom. So I deleted them from my very own profiles and I keep voting negative when a "german voice cast" is contributed. But thats not on topic right here.

My statement was and is: bookbutler is not a valid source for the SRP because of the countless wrong SRPs from past releases. I do not know where they got their information from, but it is wrong. And I cannot understand why people (like SwissFilm who lives in switzerland) believe to this "source" and not the people who live in germany and have the SRPs right here.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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For me, SRP has always been a pointless and bullshirt field anyway. What is it for? To tell myself what a great deal I made compared to a suggested price no one has ever paid in reality? To make myself feel good? Pah.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Registered: March 29, 2007
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I like the SRP field, for the reason you stated, but wouldn't be terribly upset if it disappeared.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantThargoran
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Germans. They add dozens of uncredited local distributor people to Cast. And all you are worried about is the most unnecessary data field that we have?


Just after logging in today, I couldn't agree more with you! Loads of "new" contributions, which are merely adding nothing more than a divider to the cast/crew. Or, "more importantly", the order of the audio tracks! (Yes, I mean you, _ppj_)!

I'd like to vote for a removal of the counters for submitted images and contributions. Probably those useless contribution spammers would stop sending stuff if there's no counter "rewarding" them by giving them an ego-boost for their e-peen...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
Registered: September 18, 2008
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For me, SRP has always been a pointless and bullshirt field anyway. What is it for? To tell myself what a great deal I made compared to a suggested price no one has ever paid in reality? To make myself feel good? Pah.


It has its uses. For me, my insurance company requires it for my media insurance (most regular home insurance will only cover a limited number of DVDs etc).
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantThargoran
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It has its uses. For me, my insurance company requires it for my media insurance (most regular home insurance will only cover a limited number of DVDs etc).


So that's really different in your country to what insurances usually do in most other countries in the world? In Germany, the insurance will only pay up to the current replacement value of an article.

It's comparable to a car's insurance. You won't get the money from any insurance which you paid when it was new unless it's an ultra-rare and highly demanded model (luxury car, sports car, oldtimer). Or just try to get back the money you paid for a PC from a household insurance. Doesn't work. Or... or... or.

This, of course, may be different for rare/unique items like a DVD, limited to 49 copies, which cover was signed by the director and all starring roles, happened only once in the world - or something like that. But the SRP won't help to determine the current value in such a case either.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
Registered: September 18, 2008
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So that's really different in your country to what insurances usually do in most other countries in the world? In Germany, the insurance will only pay up to the current replacement value of an article.


It's the same here too. Although I give them the full SRP, they would not pay out anything close to that. As I am using specialist insurance just for media though, they require particular information, probably to help them get to their premium price they charge (I have 13000+ releases and pay about £35 a month for the insurance with a local broker).
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