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| | Posted: | | | | Teri Garr:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teri_Garr
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000414/
http://www.tv.com/teri-garr/person/4666/summary.html
Often credites as Terri Garr or Terry Garr
From Invelos Credit Lookup:
"Teri Garr" is credited in 281 titles (554 profiles)
"Terri Garr" is credited in 12 titles (14 profiles)
"Terry Garr" is credited in 3 titles (3 profiles) | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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Quoting Kluge:
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The real name of S. Bar-David is Shimon Wincelberg
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0934574/
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/S._Bar-David
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Wincelberg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Wincelberg
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/shimon_wincelberg/
We don't use "real names" in DVD Profiler. We use the film's credits to determine most commonly credited name  .
OK, from Invelos Credit Lookup:
Shimon Wincelberg is credited in 23 titles (23 profiles)
S. Bar-David is credited in 25 titles (37 profiles)
Four recurrences in Shimon Wincelberg are Star Trek TOS where (I know for sure) he is credited S. Bar-David.
So, the correct entry should be S. Bar-David? Ohhh...I see what you're getting at now. You are trying to establish that Shimon Wincelberg and S. Bar-David are one and the same person and that, according to the CLT results, S. Bar-David is more commonly credited therefore the Shimon Wincelberg credits should be changed to S. Bar-David [Shimon Wincelberg]. Am I correct? | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Quoting 8ballMax:
Ohhh...I see what you're getting at now. You are trying to establish that Shimon Wincelberg and S. Bar-David are one and the same person and that, according to the CLT results, S. Bar-David is more commonly credited therefore the Shimon Wincelberg credits should be changed to S. Bar-David [Shimon Wincelberg]. Am I correct?  | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years | | | | Last edited: by Kluge |
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| | Posted: | | | | John / Meredyth / Lucas is John // Meredyth Lucas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Meredyth_Lucas
John Meredyth Lucas (May 1, 1919 - October 19, 2002) was a writer, primarily for television. He is best
remembered for the work he did on Star Trek as a writer, producer and director. He was the only writer
on the original series to direct an episode he penned ("Elaan of Troyius"). He also wrote for Mannix.
He was the son of screenwriter Bess Meredyth and writer/director Wilfred Lucas, and the adopted
son of director Michael Curtiz.
ICL
"John Meredyth Lucas" is credited in 85 titles (99 profiles) | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | See below | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
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| | Posted: | | | | Robert Jayne also credited as Bobby Jacoby or Bob Jacoby. I'll leave this up for future reference if and when Robert Jayne becomes his common name. Many non Region 1 profiles incorrectly have him credited with only Robert Jayne, which are incorrect based upon the interview posted below because before 2000 he was credited as Bobby Jacoby. Sites used to confirm same actor. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0414975/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jayne http://www.tv.com/robert--jayne/person/402596/summary.html http://www.tvrage.com/person/id-207282/Robert+Jayne http://www.movietome.com/people/402596/robert-jayne/index.html http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Robert-Jayne From an interview @ the following link: Link"We asked Robert Jayne, who plays Melvin in Tremors 1 and 3, some questions about his role in the movies and what the TV series has in store for us.... UK: Firstly, there has been some confusion over your name. RJ: My name is Robert Jayne, but I went by the name Bobby Jacoby for most of my young professional life. My older brother Scott Jacoby enjoyed success as a young actor and was awarded an Emmy for his work on the television movie “That Certain Summer”. Although we don’t share the same father, our mother kept the name “Jacoby” for all of my siblings to use professionally when she remarried and gave birth to her additional children, including myself. I decided to use my real name professionally around the age of twenty, and that’s why I am credited as “Bobby Jacoby” in the first movie but “Robert Jayne” in the third movie and television series. " | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,738 |
| | Posted: | | | | In response to the post above: I agree that both name variants refer to the same person, but the "common name" surely isn't Robert Jayne?! It may be his real name, but certainly not the most commonly credited form. Most of those 121 Robert Jayne entries are for copies of 'Pearl Harbor' (I counted at least 75), and the remaining ones are largely just incorrect IMDb-mined data. He really is mostly credited as Bobby Jacoby. Here's what you get when you "dissect" the CLT results:
Bobby Jacoby:
- The A-Team: Season Four
- Baywatch: Season 5
- Can't Hardly Wait
- Fear Runs Silent
- Highway to Heaven: Season One
- Iron Eagle
- Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence
- Misfits of Science
- Murder She Wrote: Season Two
- Night of the Demons 2
- Party of Five: Season 1
- Perfect Strangers: The Complete First & Second Seasons
- The Promise of Love
- The Right Temptation
- Sliders: The Fourth Season
- St. Elsewhere: Season One
- Tremors
- Wizards of the Lost Kingdom II
Robert Jayne:
- Beyond The Wall of Sleep
- Pearl Harbor
- Tremors 3: Back to Perfection | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | As I've explained in another thread: that's ridiculous. Per Ken's specific instructions, we're after the "most-credited form". He's credited as "Bobby Jayne" in 17 out of 21 titles - that's 80%. How is that not "the most-credited form"?! Because there happen to be a lot of copies of 'Pearl Harbor'? What has that got to do with anything? There may be a lot of copies in the CLT, but people will only have one copy in their own databases. With 17 versus 4 titles, chances are that the vast majority of the users will have "Bobby Jacoby" as the most-credited form in his local datase. Then why oh why would you want to use "Robert Jayne" as the common name? A name variant that, as of yet, is only used a grand total of four (!) times?!
Oh, and to address your question, I'll ask it back to you: "Tell me where it says in the rules that CLT must be based on Profiles and not Titles." The answer is the same... IMHO, "the most-credited form" can only mean different titles. Anything else is ridiculous. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| | Posted: | | | | -Wrong thread-
Moved to 'Birth years' thread. | | | | Last edited: by marcelb7 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting marcelb7: Quote:
Nancy Wilson (1937)
Jazz singer. She appears in some TV-shows, and in The Killers (from 1964)
http://missnancywilson.com/
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3ifyxqw5ldhe
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933897/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Wilson_(singer)
Nancy Wilson (1954)
Guitarist and vocalist from Heart, and composer for such films as Almost Famous, Vanilla Sky and Elizabethtown. Not surprising, she's married to Cameron Crowe, director of the aforementioned films.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:j9frxq9hldse
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933896/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Wilson_(guitarist) You've put this in the wrong thread since it has nothing to do with "Credited As" Name. This belongs in the "Pinned: List of Accepted Birth Years with Documentation" thread instead. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Posted: | | | | Rochelle G. Jones (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0429155/)
# Moulin Rouge! (2001) (as Rochelle Jones) .... Parisian Dancer
# Staying Alive (1983) .... Dancer
Invelos Credit Lookup:
Rochelle Jones is credited in 2 titles (14 profiles) (only from Moulin Rouge!)
Rochelle G. Jones is credited in 10 titles (67 profiles) (50 from Moulin Rouge! and 17 from Staying Alive)
In Moulin Rouge I can confirm the credit Rochelle Jones, and I suppose that in Staying Alive is credited with G.
Which one should be the common name?
Maybe Rochelle Jones? | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years | | | | Last edited: by Kluge |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
Rochelle G. Jones (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0429155/)
# Moulin Rouge! (2001) (as Rochelle Jones) .... Parisian Dancer
# Staying Alive (1983) .... Dancer
Invelos Credit Lookup:
Rochelle Jones is credited in 2 titles (14 profiles) (only from Moulin Rouge!)
Rochelle G. Jones is credited in 10 titles (67 profiles) (50 from Moulin Rouge! and 17 from Staying Alive)
In Moulin Rouge I can confirm the credit Rochelle Jones, and I suppose that in Staying Alive is credited with G.
Which one should be the common name?
Maybe Rochelle Jones? Since Ken made it very clear he is looking for most commonly credited... with those numbers that you quote it would be... Common Name: Rochelle G. Jones Credited As: Rochelle Jones | | | | Pete |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Quoting Kluge:
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Rochelle G. Jones (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0429155/)
# Moulin Rouge! (2001) (as Rochelle Jones) .... Parisian Dancer
# Staying Alive (1983) .... Dancer
Invelos Credit Lookup:
Rochelle Jones is credited in 2 titles (14 profiles) (only from Moulin Rouge!)
Rochelle G. Jones is credited in 10 titles (67 profiles) (50 from Moulin Rouge! and 17 from Staying Alive)
In Moulin Rouge I can confirm the credit Rochelle Jones, and I suppose that in Staying Alive is credited with G.
Which one should be the common name?
Maybe Rochelle Jones?
Since Ken made it very clear he is looking for most commonly credited... with those numbers that you quote it would be...
Common Name: Rochelle G. Jones
Credited As: Rochelle Jones However the real results of ICL should be: Rochelle Jones is credited in x titles (64 profiles) Rochelle G. Jones is credited in y titles (17 profiles) with x>>y even if in Staying Alive she is credited as Rochelle G. Jones (I don't know for sure). | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken did say if you can document the credit look-up tool is wrong you can go with your findings... but you must document that the look-up tool is indeed wrong to do so. He also said the best way to do so is to correct any wrong profiles in the database.
I have seen many people document the true most commonly credited by using a thread listing all the person's work and getting help from the community to verify what all the credits actually are. I would suggest doing that if you want to document that the look-up tool is wrong. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
Rochelle G. Jones (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0429155/)
# Moulin Rouge! (2001) (as Rochelle Jones) .... Parisian Dancer
# Staying Alive (1983) .... Dancer
Invelos Credit Lookup:
Rochelle Jones is credited in 2 titles (14 profiles) (only from Moulin Rouge!)
Rochelle G. Jones is credited in 10 titles (67 profiles) (50 from Moulin Rouge! and 17 from Staying Alive)
In Moulin Rouge I can confirm the credit Rochelle Jones, and I suppose that in Staying Alive is credited with G.
Which one should be the common name?
Maybe Rochelle Jones? You could also try and find the actresses own website or that of her agent that lists any details, very good for defining a common name "I am XYZ" but have used the name abc for these films. That also would be a very good source of proof. Steve |
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