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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Except that the rules specifically say:

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Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.

That tells me that only the data, that pertains to the Blu-ray, is to be entered in the parent profile.  I honestly don't know how anybody can see it any other way. 
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Since the program itself adds DVD data, how can it be against the rules to modify said data to match the DVD? That data has no other function so it would be absurd to assume that the rules forbid its use. If its use would compromise some other function, then it would be another matter. But it doesn't.
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Quoting GSyren:
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Since the program itself adds DVD data, how can it be against the rules to modify said data to match the DVD?

That's a good question but, again, I don't see any other interpretation of that rule.
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Well, since the rules don't specifically mention these fields, I make a different interpretation. I don't think Ken makes up rules without a reason. There is no descernible reason that these fields should be left alone. If there was a hidden reason I'm sure Ken would have spelled it out.
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We're not talking about a Blu-ray profile as some posters keep asserting, but a Blu-ray/DVD combo. A combo profile contains more fields than a Blu-ray profile and those additional fields pertain to the DVD part of the package. Why would anyone prefer incorrect data to correct data in those fields ?


Indeed.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Well, since the rules don't specifically mention these fields, I make a different interpretation. I don't think Ken makes up rules without a reason. There is no descernible reason that these fields should be left alone. If there was a hidden reason I'm sure Ken would have spelled it out.

I don't make interpretations based on what the program does and doesn't do.  I make interpretations based on what the rule actually says and it says to "use the details from the HD media."  There is no "unless the program adds it" clause.

I have no dog in this fight as I don't mark my combos as combos but, like it or not, this rule is fairly clear and straightforward.
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I make interpretations based on what the rule actually says and it says to "use the details from the HD media."

Well, if you fill in all fields including the DVD fields, you are using the details from the HD media. It doesn't say "use only".

There are two extremes when it comes to interpreting rules:
- Everything is forbidden except that which is explicitly allowed.
- Everything is allowed except that which is explicitly forbidden.

It seems that I tend to lean a bit more towards the latter than you do.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I make interpretations based on what the rule actually says and it says to "use the details from the HD media."

Well, if you fill in all fields including the DVD fields, you are using the details from the HD media. It doesn't say "use only".

When there are a finite number of choices, in this case the following three:

1. Enter data from both the HD Media as well as the DVD
2. Enter data from the HD Media
3. Enter Data from the DVD

There is no need to say "use only the details from the HD media."  Logically speaking, if it were permissible to use data from both the HD media AND the DVD, there would be no reason for the rule.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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I guess you won't be too surprised to learn that I don't agree.
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1. Enter data from both the HD Media as well as the DVD

Well, that wording would mean that the DVD fields were mandatory.

I'm thinking that the rule just means to take all relevant fields from the HD media. I don't think it means that you may not change the two DVD-only fields.

But I feel that we'll probably have to agree to disagree. At least until Ken decides to clarify. If ever.
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