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 Utility for importing cast and crew from IMDB (Locked) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why does everyone keep telling you that. because its in the Rules and the Programmer/Owner of the comapny says NO!!!!! Since he owns the Online he has that right, and NO means NO. So if you want to use it, like i said, keep it local and do not contribute. Do you lack some basic comprehhension skills. Raed and FOLLOW the Rules, if you do not wish to then keep your data to yourself. SAomeone will one day fix whatever is wrong, it would be better to have another member of team helping, but only IF you are going to do it RIGHT.
For Contribution purposes do it RIGHT or NOT AT ALL. Do you understand now.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Data entry is a PITA, I agree but it is part of database building process. You can be part of the team and help us build it or you can sit on the sidelines.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,005 |
| | Posted: | | | | MHoefler, I think you still do not grasp that it is illegal to grap the data from IMDb. It violates IMDb's If Invelos allows that data to get into the online database, they could get into trouble! Quote:
Robots and Screen Scraping: You may not use data mining, robots, screen scraping, or similar data gathering and extraction tools on this site, except with our express written consent as noted below. Quote:
You may not use data mining, robots, screen scraping, or similar online data gathering and extraction tools on our website. If the information/data you want is not present in the data files available from our FTP sites, it means it's not available for non-commercial usage. Bold face by me. Source | | | 
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MHoefler: Quote:
Why does everybody keep saying "no", "it's not allowed", "my momma told me not to", etc. instead of thinking about ways to improve the current situation? The quality of the online contributions is a problem. Some kind of automation can make it better! If everybody quit complaining about the bad bad IMDB and instead use some energy to find a good way of using existing resources, the project would actually move ahead and we would all profit from a better online database. Why is this so hard to understand? Nobody is stopping you from using your program and fixing your profiles the way you want them. However, due to the IMDb ToS, you can not upload that data into the Invelos database. Doing so opens Invelos up to legal action. If you want to play with fire and risk getting sued, that is your right. You do not, however, have the right to drag Invelos or the rest of us into that fire. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MHoefler: Quote:
Problem is, that only about 10% of the online profiles are (almost) complete and (mostly) error free. 60% are quite usable (but far from perfect!) and the rest is lousy! Sorry to say that, but that's the truth, at least in my experience (RC2, German).
I DO NOT want to change or edit the 70% good ones! I just need a quick way to improve the 30% bad ones or add missing ones.
For me, collecting DVDs is a hobby, not a full time job. Some days I buy 10-15 and when I come home, I want to enter them in my database. But I will not spend 45 hours for that like Skip (great effort, congratulations!) - period! After all, the online database (which enables me to add titles to my collection quickly) was the main reason why I bought this program and not some other. I'm sure 99% of the people using DVDP think the same way. That's a fact, nothing more and nothing less.
So still, using IMDB data to turn an absolutely unusable online profile into something that quite accurately represents the DVD I've purchased, makes a lot of sense to me (and I'm sure to thousands of other users as well). However, I do not have the time to make each profile absolutely perfect, please understand this, but IMDB does get the most important cast and crew members correct and that's the important fact for me.
So why not give the users a way of quickly importing movies without much hassle? If everybody thinks the data is not good enough for online contribution (which is not true, btw.) then ok, disable the contribution button or something like that. It would also be nice to have some flags for each profile, like "Verified", "Complete", etc. This would make it much easier to choose from the available profiles and to check which ones need improvement. BTW, the bad bad IMDB does feature this!
Why does everybody keep saying "no", "it's not allowed", "my momma told me not to", etc. instead of thinking about ways to improve the current situation? The quality of the online contributions is a problem. Some kind of automation can make it better! If everybody quit complaining about the bad bad IMDB and instead use some energy to find a good way of using existing resources, the project would actually move ahead and we would all profit from a better online database. Here's real good reason for you to cease and desist talking about this here. If you continue, somebody is gonna drop a dime on your stupid ass to IMDB! Now shut up about it already. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting MHoefler:
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Problem is, that only about 10% of the online profiles are (almost) complete and (mostly) error free. 60% are quite usable (but far from perfect!) and the rest is lousy! Sorry to say that, but that's the truth, at least in my experience (RC2, German).
I DO NOT want to change or edit the 70% good ones! I just need a quick way to improve the 30% bad ones or add missing ones.
For me, collecting DVDs is a hobby, not a full time job. Some days I buy 10-15 and when I come home, I want to enter them in my database. But I will not spend 45 hours for that like Skip (great effort, congratulations!) - period! After all, the online database (which enables me to add titles to my collection quickly) was the main reason why I bought this program and not some other. I'm sure 99% of the people using DVDP think the same way. That's a fact, nothing more and nothing less.
So still, using IMDB data to turn an absolutely unusable online profile into something that quite accurately represents the DVD I've purchased, makes a lot of sense to me (and I'm sure to thousands of other users as well). However, I do not have the time to make each profile absolutely perfect, please understand this, but IMDB does get the most important cast and crew members correct and that's the important fact for me.
So why not give the users a way of quickly importing movies without much hassle? If everybody thinks the data is not good enough for online contribution (which is not true, btw.) then ok, disable the contribution button or something like that. It would also be nice to have some flags for each profile, like "Verified", "Complete", etc. This would make it much easier to choose from the available profiles and to check which ones need improvement. BTW, the bad bad IMDB does feature this!
Why does everybody keep saying "no", "it's not allowed", "my momma told me not to", etc. instead of thinking about ways to improve the current situation? The quality of the online contributions is a problem. Some kind of automation can make it better! If everybody quit complaining about the bad bad IMDB and instead use some energy to find a good way of using existing resources, the project would actually move ahead and we would all profit from a better online database.
Here's real good reason for you to cease and desist talking about this here. If you continue, somebody is gonna drop a dime on your stupid ass to IMDB! Now shut up about it already. No doubt this friendly request will make him stop!  Ken, this thread needs locking! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 582 |
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