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Disc Number and Disc Side Labels in Cast & Crew Dividers?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorm.cellophane
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James:

I don't wish to be insulting. But you continue to show me that you have absolutely no understanding of what i am saying. I am wasting my time trying to explain it to you. I am sorry, in point of fact I don't blame you, something is lacking in my ability to explain it, though I have no idea what it is, the issue is so clear, simple and obvious that I simply don't understand why you don't get it...but you don't and you won't.

But like I have saiid this is also totally irrelevant to me. My data is my data from now on, You guys can do whatever you wish to wreck the database, and you are well on that path, even though I know you don't see it.

Skip

That's funny because you seem to be contributing today. 

Go ahead and answer my questions. If I don't understand your reponse, maybe someone else can help me:
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James:

It is not a red herring, and you saying so, diminishesd your argument and reinforces that you don't get it. Because you don't see the issue of Consistency. Talk about your basic Red herring

Skip

What's consistent about your unilateral decision to start contributing disc dividers in cast lists, which is so far contrary to what everyone else is contributing? If you can support a positive argument for doing it, there is still the issue that all episodic profiles either need to be redone or your work will be inconsistent with everyone else's.

As has been stated numerous times by others, the Edition field data is entered consistently. We take the info off the box and put it into the field regardless of whether it is seen as valuable to everyone.

That's not the same "consistency" that applies to suddenly adding disc dividers to cast and crew lists. We have been "consistently" not adding such dividers!! If you start contributing them, your profiles become inconsistent with how everyone else is doing it. Explain why that's a good idea.
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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Using your argument, Andy. at this time redundant, but who knows in the future

Skip

No, completely different - descriptions may not be in the future as new releases may happen. that is not the case for your duplicate pointless, redundant info. You clearly did not get the point! 
Andy

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Only new titles, James. And I will continue to add pre-release data. But Normal audits i will keep to myself I am fed up with some users voting inconsistently, yes I mean you. And what used to be a very easy process is becoming very burdensome, thanks to the attitudes of a very small number of users.

Skip
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I don't know if this was a complete waste.  As a result, skip isn't going to contribute anymore.  Surely that will have ramifications? 


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Don't worry, he has said it at least 20 times before, along with quitting the forum. It never lasts more than a week, generally no more than a day. 


Told ya! He is contributing again today. Same old empty threats time after time. 
Andy

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Using your argument, Andy. at this time redundant, but who knows in the future

Skip

No, completely different - descriptions may not be in the future as new releases may happen. that is not the case for your duplicate pointless, redundant info. You clearly did not get the point! 


I got your point, you clearly missed mine.

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Only new titles, James. And I will continue to add pre-release data. But Normal audits i will keep to myself I am fed up with some users voting inconsistently, yes I mean you. And what used to be a very easy process is becoming very burdensome, thanks to the attitudes of a very small number of users.

Skip

There are 5 contributions from you in my queue at present. I've voted 'yes' to all of them. You don't have much to complain about there.

Explain why there should be disc dividers in cast and crew on an inconsistent ad hoc basis?
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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I got your point, you clearly missed mine.

Skip

Only because as usual you did not make one. 
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I have explained it numerous times, James You don't want to hear it. So why should I try again and waste my time a dn raise my blood pressure.

You aren't even willing to look at it.

Skip
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I got your point, you clearly missed mine.

Skip

Only because as usual you did not make one. 


Yes, I did , Andy and you missed it COMPLETELY.

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I have explained it numerous times, James You don't want to hear it. So why should I try again and waste my time a dn raise my blood pressure.

You aren't even willing to look at it.

Skip

You want more data. I hear that. Increased functionality and usability. I hear that.

Explain why contributions should start adding this data which is inconsistent with the way all previous TV sets have been entered into the master db.
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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Think I'll take my own advice from page 2:

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Eveyone please ignore the trolls... let the voting do the talking! 


This idea is so stupid, and the community dislikes it so overwhelmingly, I dunno why I am wasting my time. 
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It is not inconsistent at all, James. North and South is a bit of an oddity, though not a totally unusual one. You will find numerous TV sets that have been set up using Side Data to define what is on the disc. Because of the setup of North and South, it also requires Disc data, since we can't get to Grandchild data...yet.

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Think I'll take my own advice from page 2:

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Eveyone please ignore the trolls... let the voting do the talking! 


This idea is so stupid, and the community dislikes it so overwhelmingly, I dunno why I am wasting my time. 

great idea, lopek. maybe I can then have a rational discussion with James.

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great idea, lopek. maybe I can then have a rational discussion with James.

Skip

Unlikely, that would take 2 rational people, and James is looking kinda lonely on that count. 
Andy

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It is not inconsistent at all, James. North and South is a bit of an oddity, though not a totally unusual one. You will find numerous TV sets that have been set up using Side Data to define what is on the disc. Because of the setup of North and South, it also requires Disc data, since we can't get to Grandchild data...yet.

Skip

I asked much earlier in this thread if anyone had seen other examples of this in other profiles. Are you saying that there are other profiles that contain disc dividers in the cast and crew? Which ones. I would seriously like to check them out.

By saying that North and South is an oddity, are you saying that these dividers should not be added to all episodic profiles? What is the distinction. How do we know when it's ok and when not. North and South is like a complete series set with multiple seasons in it. Should these dividers go into all complete series sets?
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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Good lord, man. Read what i said, North and South is an oddity (the first I have seen in this form), I expect to see another one when i do Roots(original Release). But there are PLENTY of TV series that currently use Side dividers and Disc adds one level and one more piece of valuable data.

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