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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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I was wondering, is there a general consensus about this?

Sometimes credits include a heading something like "Visual Effects by Bla Bla Bla" and under it a Visual Effects Supervisor is listed.  Generally this individual is contributed, sometimes with and sometimes without the company details added in a divider. 

However, if the heading is something like "Additional Visual Effects by Bla Bla Bla" do we include or exclude the individual if he's still credited as a Visual Effects Supervisor?  It gets more confusing if the company divider isn't included, as then there's no context for the submission of the individual.

The Rules say we include Visual Effects Supervisors but I don't think there's any clear guide on what to do in this sort of case.

Apologies if this has been considered before.  Thanks.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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We don't include additional for anything else, so why should we include Additional Visual Effects?
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I can't remember who put forth the idea to include Additional Visual Effects, but I DO remember their logic was "it's the VFX Supervisor title we're after, disregard/ignore/nevermind the header title". Then it kinda snowballed from there.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKluge
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A visual effect supervisor is also a valid credit when the COMPANY is an additional visual effects company.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Quoting Kluge:
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A visual effect supervisor is also a valid credit when the COMPANY is an additional visual effects company.

That's exactly the question SpikyCactus is asking.

Quoting SpikyCactus:
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Apologies if this has been considered before.

I'm fairly sure this *has* been discussed before somewhere - the trick is how to find it, and I can't. As far as I can recall, the consensus up to now was what huskersports and Kluge are saying: if someone is given the job title "Additional Visual Effects Supervisor", then he's out, but if he's credited as "Visual Effects Supervisor" under an "Additional Visual Effects by {company name}" header, then he's in. That's the approach I'm seeing in most profiles, anyway. But obviously, there's something to be said for either approach. One of the problems is that groups of "Additional Cast" or "Additional Voices" aren't disqualified either.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Hello everyone.  Thanks for your thoughts.

That's certainly cleared that up then!   

I think I'll submit an update to a profile to add a Visual Effects Supervisor from an Additional Special Effects Company and see what happens.  (It's "Elektra" 5039036042277 if anyone is interested and wants to look at the actual credits.)

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Well, I won't be doing that after all, as it's already there. I must have seen it in the profile and wondered if it was right, rather than seen it in the credits and wondered if it should be in the profile.  But I would have sworn I was right the first time.  Old age... 
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
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