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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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GSyren's suggestion of first disc profile is purely arbitrary, which movie title is selected for the first profile?

Since the problem is not addressed in the rules, it seems to me that any solution is arbitrary. Which movie title is the first profile? The one that does not have the alternate ID. And which one should that be? Well, I always select the one that comes first in the menu.

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How is that different to having separate physical discs for each film with the same feature on both discs?

It's not, I guess, except I have never seen two discs in a boxset having identical features of this kind (an interview on disc 1, a featurette on disc 2 and a gallery on disc 3, if I remember correctly).
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The way I've been doing things is to look at each feature individually. If it related to a specific movie (making of, trailer for that movie, commentary) I've placed it with that movie. If it can't easily be connected to a particular movie (bonus short, trailer to other movie) I've placed it with the box set.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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If it can't easily be connected to a particular movie (bonus short, trailer to other movie) I've placed it with the box set.

That's actually not allowed per the rules:
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In addition to the above, the following are not included on the box set profile: Subtitles, Audio & Disc Features. List them with the individual profiles.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAndyEN
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Thx. I'll watch for that in the future. Long story but I don't currently have access to my db so can't correct any I've already done that way at this time.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhydr0x
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Quoting AndyEN:
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If it can't easily be connected to a particular movie (bonus short, trailer to other movie) I've placed it with the box set.

That's actually not allowed per the rules:
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In addition to the above, the following are not included on the box set profile: Subtitles, Audio & Disc Features. List them with the individual profiles.


Again, I don't think that's what the rules mean here. Disc Features can only refer to the checkboxes, as the "Other" field otherwise could not be used for booklets, posters, etc. for boxsets, which was certainly not the intention.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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This is about disc features, though; Interview, Featurette and Gallery, i.e. checkboxes.
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GSyren's suggestion of first disc profile is purely arbitrary, which movie title is selected for the first profile?

Since the problem is not addressed in the rules, it seems to me that any solution is arbitrary. Which movie title is the first profile? The one that does not have the alternate ID. And which one should that be? Well, I always select the one that comes first in the menu.

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How is that different to having separate physical discs for each film with the same feature on both discs?

It's not, I guess, except I have never seen two discs in a boxset having identical features of this kind (an interview on disc 1, a featurette on disc 2 and a gallery on disc 3, if I remember correctly).

My understanding is we create individual profiles, in line with standard contribution rules, for each film in the box set.

This is true for both DiscID/alternate discID profiles. The "Main Feature" on the Disc ID/alternate disc ID profile becomes the frame of reference when applying the "Disc Features" rule. It is independent of which profile was constructed first.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhydr0x
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This is about disc features, though; Interview, Featurette and Gallery, i.e. checkboxes.


"If it can't easily be connected to a particular movie (bonus short, trailer to other movie)"

Ok, bonus trailers are a bad example, but the short? That's quite similar to your examples or my Mae West stuff.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhydr0x
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This is true for both DiscID/alternate discID profiles. The "Main Feature" on the Disc ID/alternate disc ID profile becomes the frame of reference when applying the "Disc Features" rule. It is independent of which profile was constructed first.


At least in my example, there is no "Main Feature" and I think this is true for a lot of boxsets. Both movies on the disc are equally important feature films. Which movie uses the "clean" disc ID and which one the #1 alternate is purely arbitrary.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorObiKen
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This is true for both DiscID/alternate discID profiles. The "Main Feature" on the Disc ID/alternate disc ID profile becomes the frame of reference when applying the "Disc Features" rule. It is independent of which profile was constructed first.


At least in my example, there is no "Main Feature" and I think this is true for a lot of boxsets. Both movies on the disc are equally important feature films. Which movie uses the "clean" disc ID and which one the #1 alternate is purely arbitrary.

Just to clarify what I mean by "Main Feature" on a DiscID/Alternate DiscID profile, I mean the movie title recorded in the profile, which is listed in the DiscID Information description as "Main Feature". The DiscID/alternate DiscID profiles have different main features, and the "Disc Features" rule will be applied based on that main feature (film title) in the DiscID/alternate DiscID profile, which is in line with standard contribution rules. Hope that helps.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhydr0x
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Yeah, you're right about that then, but I don't think anyone here had a different interpretation of that aspect.
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Santo box set
|-- Disc 1 Movie 1
|-- Disc 1 Movie 2
|-- Disc 2 Movie 1
|-- Disc 2 Movie 2
|-- Disc 3 Movie 1
|-- Disc 3 Movie 2
|-- Disc 4 Movie 1
|-- Disc 4 Movie 2

Obviously, but that's not the question.

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