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Zsa Zsa Gabor, How to list second "Zsa"
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I'm editing some profiles and I came across two listings for Zsa Zsa Gabor.

One lists Zsa Zsa as being her first name,
the other lists the second Zsa as being her middlle name.

Which one is correct?
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Zsa/Zsa/Gabor unless you can provide documentation to present otherwise.

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So the second Zsa is her middle name, correct?

Just want to make sure, because she's credited as Zsa Zsa/ Gabor in Naked Gun 2 1/2 and Queen of Outer Space.
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Actually Zsa Zsa is a quite common nickname in hungarian. So both should be as first name, considering her hungarian descent.
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Unless you can document it otherwise it should be Zsa/Zsa/Gabor. Middle name yes.

Roth it may be a common hungarian nickname, but can you document it as such for this actress, if not...

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She was named after the then top Hungarian actress Sári Fedák, who was also called Zsa Zsa because her daughter couldn't pronounce the name Sári.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsa_Zsa_Gabor


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Von Anhalt, who is Gabor’s eighth husband, said he and Smith met in the 1990s when Smith was still married to elderly oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II. He said Smith approached him and Gabor at the Plaza Hotel in New York.

“She was a very big fan of Zsa Zsa and wanted to be like Zsa Zsa,” he said. “She wanted to be a princess.”


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17069880/
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This helps how, squirrel. Are you implying that because of the artcle it should Zsa Zsa/Gabor. Why? It is not uncommon for people to be called by both first and middle name. For example Linda Sue or for Dallas fans Sue Ellen.

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Zsa Zsa is a nickname or stage name and, as you know Skip, we never split those

Zsa Zsa is also a direct replacement for her real first name (Sári).


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It is not uncommon for people to be called by both first and middle name. For example Linda Sue or for Dallas fans Sue Ellen.


How do you know that Sue Ellen is being called by her first and middle name?  How do you know Sue Ellen is not her first name? Or are you just assuming? 
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A quick google check shows many sites that list her name as Sári Fedák with the name Zsa Zsa as the name she took because, as Squirrel points out, her daughter couldn't pronounce the name Sári.

IMO it should be Zsa Zsa/ / Gabor

If anything it is a Nickname and should be in the first name field.

I swear Skip. Sometime it looks like you simply like to start these arguments and dig your heels in the sand so they will go on for 40 pages. Sometimes these things simply make sense the way people suggest. This is such a case.

Any predictions as to what page the Magly family tree/history will appear? 



EDIT: Squirrel replied while I was posting.
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Now I'm more confused than before.
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Zsa Zsa is a nickname or stage name and, as you know Skip, we never split those

Zsa Zsa is also a direct replacement for her real first name (Sári).


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It is not uncommon for people to be called by both first and middle name. For example Linda Sue or for Dallas fans Sue Ellen.


How do you know that Sue Ellen is being called by her first and middle name?  How do you know Sue Ellen is not her first name? Or are you just assuming? 


You are reaching a conclusion, Squirrel, and I would agree, but I see no evidence to support the conclusion in what you offered as documentation. As I said without evidence to the contrary she should be Zsa/Zsa/Gabor. She has been in Hollywood for well over 50 years and who knows what name she uses or how to parse it. I have not seen or have access to anything which might be helpful, like say a Driver's license application, which would list how SHE would do it. I am simply saying that without documentation to the contrary use the default of first/ middle/ last.

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This helps how, squirrel. Are you implying that because of the artcle it should Zsa Zsa/Gabor. Why? It is not uncommon for people to be called by both first and middle name. For example Linda Sue or for Dallas fans Sue Ellen.

Skip


As I read that, an amusing thought hit me, has anybody seen a Mexico City phone book.
Latinos, talk about middle names
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No, Rick i don't simply dig my heels in. i do not reach conclusions which I cannot support. There is no evidence..yet.

You and others are quick to reach conclusions based upon all sorts of bizarre interpretations of data, I am not. Is it likely that she is Zsa Zsa (First Name), yes, it seems reasonable but that is not adequate proof. My position is always the same, Rick, start at the default position without documentation to the contrary. I don't know these people personally, I am not prepared to impose my opinion of what I THINK MIGHT be correct.

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LOL, you're telling me Srethims.

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Zsa Zsa belongs in the first name field.

Zsa Zsa/ / Gabor

I have seen her interviewed contless times, and I have never heard her called "Zsa".

The fact that she adopted" Zsa Zsa" as a substitute because her daughter could not pronounce her real first name tells me that it is a replacement for her first name, not a replacement for her first and middle names.

Everything has to be an argument.  It would be so nice to see logic prevail around here from time to time! 
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