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| Registered: March 10, 2007 |  Posts: 524 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
One of the primary reasons for the decline, could be if you added titles you don't own, such as cast and crew. The rules state take cast and crew credits from the film credits as credited. That's rather hard to do if you don't own what your contributing.
If your going to contribute something to the database you should only be contributing what can be verified. Tracer is absolutely right - you should only contribute the data that you can verify. And if you dont have the DVD, that will limit your information. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Much appreciated.  Often the problem is easily solved if it is pointed out. This is especially useful for new additions where, contrary to updates, you can't be selective in uploading certain fields and find out by trial and error what is and what is not acceptable (or more constructively, postpone questionable items). Also there is of course no feedback from voters (not that they are by definition right). | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
One of the primary reasons for the decline, could be if you added titles you don't own, such as cast and crew. The rules state take cast and crew credits from the film credits as credited. That's rather hard to do if you don't own what your contributing.
If your going to contribute something to the database you should only be contributing what can be verified. I wouldn't do any more than I would for a pre-release. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 811 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks Ken, another great idea which should be very helpful  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,136 |
| | Posted: | | | | seeing as I just got the folowing Quote:
Please use birth years only to distinguish between otherwise identical cast and crew. New birth year submissions must be documented. I can see a lot of suubmissions now being declined for this reason. I had not noticed the cast birth year issue when posted, and also - I had not added the birth year in question I am happy for the decline, as it is valid - but how would the submission team prefer for us to show where the date info came from in this instance? As it is, there was also another person's submission that is correct, so no need for a re-sub I guess Thanks | | | Signature? We don't need no stinking... hang on, this has been done... blast [oooh now in Widescreen]
Ah... well you see.... I thought I'd say something more interesting... but cannot think of anything..... oh well
And to those of you who have disabled viewing of these signature files "hello" (or not) Registered: July 27, 2004 |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just indicate that in the notes - birth year from prior accepted profile. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,136 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you for the fast reply there Ken (and thanks for this update to the process, it is much nicer to see why it was a no)
Keep up the good work! | | | Signature? We don't need no stinking... hang on, this has been done... blast [oooh now in Widescreen]
Ah... well you see.... I thought I'd say something more interesting... but cannot think of anything..... oh well
And to those of you who have disabled viewing of these signature files "hello" (or not) Registered: July 27, 2004 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Based on what is posted here already it looks like it is going to help a lot  I'm glad the speculations of "there is now way they could ever do this... they have too many contributions to review" were proved wrong. Thanks again Ken! (and Gerri if you had something to do with it ) |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 34 |
| | Posted: | | | | I got this message yesterday with a new contribution (The Graduate, disc ID 4139F4131B2B6615):
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
It is a new contribution so what shall I write in the notes?
And today another new contribution (Ostre sledovane vlaky, ID IA8504091E866C9C1) was declined without a reason. So what's the point? I spend a lot of time doing contributions because not many people are here from Czech republic or Slovakia and I really can't find any mistakes in these profiles. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting trenki: Quote:
I got this message yesterday with a new contribution (The Graduate, disc ID 4139F4131B2B6615):
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
It is a new contribution so what shall I write in the notes?
And today another new contribution (Ostre sledovane vlaky, ID IA8504091E866C9C1) was declined without a reason. So what's the point? I spend a lot of time doing contributions because not many people are here from Czech republic or Slovakia and I really can't find any mistakes in these profiles. It all depends on what information you put into the profile. Make sure you tell them that cast & crew are taken from the end credits. If you added audio/subtitle tracks tell them how you verified these, and so on. Just resubmit and let them know where you got all the information from and I'm sure it'll be accepted next time. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 34 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
It all depends on what information you put into the profile. Make sure you tell them that cast & crew are taken from the end credits. If you added audio/subtitle tracks tell them how you verified these, and so on.
Just resubmit and let them know where you got all the information from and I'm sure it'll be accepted next time. When I send a new profile, isn't it obvious that I prepared it according to the rules? So question for approvers - what notes shall we include with a new contribution? |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting trenki: Quote:
When I send a new profile, isn't it obvious that I prepared it according to the rules? So question for approvers - what notes shall we include with a new contribution? You'd think it was obvious, but we've had plenty of contributors who don't prepare profiles according to the rules, so the screeners have to play safe. Supply notes even with new submissions and you should be fine. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,594 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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Adding titles to the database that you don't own? Why would you do that unless they are pre-releases?
Wish List.
Also, if you add something to the database that no one else has added, you are using the same information as if someone were to add it prior to release. It's just a timing issue. I don't buy everything by release date and sometimes it doesn't get entered pre-release by anyone else. I can add what I can based on e-tailer info, for example, and then when I actually own it, I can update it. It doesn't happen that often for me, but it does happen. Ahhhh...wishlist. Forgot about that puppy  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting trenki: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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It all depends on what information you put into the profile. Make sure you tell them that cast & crew are taken from the end credits. If you added audio/subtitle tracks tell them how you verified these, and so on.
Just resubmit and let them know where you got all the information from and I'm sure it'll be accepted next time.
When I send a new profile, isn't it obvious that I prepared it according to the rules? So question for approvers - what notes shall we include with a new contribution? Why would it be obvious where you got the info just because it is a new profile? If you don't say where you got the info from why should they assume where you got the info? It sounds simple to me... for each change you say where you got the info from. That is how I been doing mine every since the contribution notes system was introduced. I may not do the best notes in the community but I do source my information. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Obvious no... if it was obvious that members were following the contribution rules then Ken probably would never had to start requiring better contribution notes.
Cast and Crew must come from the film credits. I usually put something like this in "Cast and Crew taken from film credits as credited in the order they are credited."
Overviews "Overview taken from the back cover exactly as shown. Using single quotes to identify bold or italics words."
And so on, the days of just saying "new contribution" or "everything taken from the DVD" are gone. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. | | | | Last edited: by Tracer |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 34 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Why would it be obvious where you got the info just because it is a new profile? If you don't say where you got the info from why should they assume where you got the info?
It sounds simple to me... for each change you say where you got the info from. That is how I been doing mine every since the contribution notes system was introduced. I may not do the best notes in the community but I do source my information. OK OK I got the point. I didn't think of a new profile as a "change". Of course I add notes when I am changing already submitted profile. No problem to add a short note about owning the DVD for a new contribution. |
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