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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 122 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't think the color matters here, there are different dvd keep case colors too and nobody cares about it. New medias > new & different cases, I don't see the problem here.
@ Ken: Thanks for the fast implementation, HD Slim Case & HD Keep Case is fine. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,911 |
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|   | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
In the next beta Elite is now HD Slim and HD Keep Case has been added. If anyone doesn't like this solution, now's the time to speak up.  Sounds fine, and I'm [now] very glad I've only updated a few "Elite" cases thus far.  How about them sound options, though?  | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Assassin: Quote:
Don't think the color matters here, there are different dvd keep case colors too and nobody cares about it. New medias > new & different cases, I don't see the problem here.
@ Ken: Thanks for the fast implementation, HD Slim Case & HD Keep Case is fine. That was sarcasm about the color. My point was that a keep case is a keep case regardless of any minor differences in contour, thickness, etc. One name should suffice, instead of five or six. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 350 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
Until HD Digipak comes out  So you haven't seen the HD DVD Heroes set, then. Yes, it is a digipak. In a slip cover. | | | | -fred |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting Assassin:
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Don't think the color matters here, there are different dvd keep case colors too and nobody cares about it. New medias > new & different cases, I don't see the problem here.
@ Ken: Thanks for the fast implementation, HD Slim Case & HD Keep Case is fine.
That was sarcasm about the color. My point was that a keep case is a keep case regardless of any minor differences in contour, thickness, etc. One name should suffice, instead of five or six. So you are saying that we don't need case type at all? pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting Assassin:
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Don't think the color matters here, there are different dvd keep case colors too and nobody cares about it. New medias > new & different cases, I don't see the problem here.
@ Ken: Thanks for the fast implementation, HD Slim Case & HD Keep Case is fine.
That was sarcasm about the color. My point was that a keep case is a keep case regardless of any minor differences in contour, thickness, etc. One name should suffice, instead of five or six.
So you are saying that we don't need case type at all?
pdf Did I say that? NO! Try again. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,612 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Assassin: Quote:
- There are 3 different "slim" HD & BD cases ("Elite" - used by Warner, that one from "seastone.com" and the one with the US Pat #) The elite line was transfered from Seastone to Viva: Joint News Release from Viva and Seastone regarding the Elite SuiteQuote:
Joint News Release from Viva and Seastone Regarding the Elite Suite™
June 1, 2006
The Viva Group and Seastone Media Group are pleased to announce the sale and transfer of all
rights related to the Elite™ Suite of products from Seastone to Viva. With this transaction, Viva
becomes the owner and the exclusive global manufacturer and distributor of the Elite Case™ for
HD DVD™ and Blu-ray™.
“The Elite Case has the attractive look and feel of a high-tech product and is the primary case
that the industry has chosen as the package for next generation media packaging. We are very
excited to be able to supply this case for both HD DVD and Blu-ray in all global regions” says
Tony Choi, Managing Director of Viva.
“With Viva’s global manufacturing presence and reputation for quality, we believe this move will
benefit the entire industry for both Blu-ray and HD DVD” says Warren Osborn, CEO of Seastone
Media Group. US Pat # 6,123,192 isn't a different case. Those cases (PREMIERpak?) are using the patent which is for a specific type of cylindrical disc hub to hold the disc in place. US Patent 6,123,192: Rosette with release tab for holding disc shaped elementsSo, essentially the Amarays are 14mm thick, Nexpak are ~11mm thick, and the Elites are 6mm thick (THINpak equivalent?) for the single disc 12.5-15mm thick for "onetime compatiable" (1-2 discs, 1-6 discs respectively) and 25mm for 7-10 discs. Traditionally, the standard single disc dvd cases are 14mm thick and THINpaks are 7mm. Nexpak PREMIERpak (US: Sony, Buena Vista, Paramount, Lionsgate) Amaray Red Tag Cases (European releases?) Non Red Tag Cases Viva Elite Cases (US: Warner, Fox, Universal) | | | | Last edited: by rdodolak |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Elite is a very different shape than the standard DVD case. It's better that it have its own name than continue with people insisting on listing it as "Custom."
I don't like the HD Slim vs HD Keepcase. How are we to know which is which? The photos above are virtually indistinguishable. Call them all Elites and be done with it. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
I don't like the HD Slim vs HD Keepcase. How are we to know which is which? The photos above are virtually indistinguishable. Call them all Elites and be done with it. I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't tell them apart. I was going to say something sooner, but then everyone seemed be able to distinguish them, so I just dropped it. I agree with the suggestion to call them all Elites and be done with it. But now that the beta has gone live, it might be too late. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
Quoting gardibolt:
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I don't like the HD Slim vs HD Keepcase. How are we to know which is which? The photos above are virtually indistinguishable. Call them all Elites and be done with it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't tell them apart.
I was going to say something sooner, but then everyone seemed be able to distinguish them, so I just dropped it.
I agree with the suggestion to call them all Elites and be done with it. But now that the beta has gone live, it might be too late. I third this. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 122 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
I don't like the HD Slim vs HD Keepcase. How are we to know which is which? The photos above are virtually indistinguishable. Call them all Elites and be done with it. Are you serious? It's clearly visible that the HD Keepcase nearly two times thick as the Slim case. There shouldn't be a problem to differ between them. Furthermore they are European only. Calling them Elites would be completely wrong, because they aren't all Elites. | | | | Last edited: by Assassin |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,612 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 775 |
| | Posted: | | | | They do this on purpose, I know it! |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Posts: 581 |
| | Posted: | | | | Maybe we could use the HD Keep Case for both the thicker amaray (mostly used in Europe) and the regular Elite cases? After all, that's how we do it for DVDs. Maybe not as common anymore, but earlier most 2-disc sets came in thicker amaray cases but we still called those keep cases. The way I see it, it should be the same way for HD.
It would be logical to just follow the rules set for DVDs, only with a HD tag in front. Another thing is that I've noticed that some titles that were issued in the thicker amarays, were issued in the slim cases after the first pressing. This applies to some UK imports I've spotted
So a a summary, my suggestion is to use "HD Keep Case" for both the thicker amaray and the Elite versions, and rename "HD Slim" to "HD Thinpaks" to apply to the ones shown in the link. | | |  |
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