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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | The two-disc version of How the West Was Won (US 883929026272) is currently in the database as having two-child profiles. The movie is presented in two ways: in a standard rectangle and in a "Smilebox" to simulate the curved Cinerama screen. You can see screenshots here. The question is how this should be entered. I submitted to remove the profiles and got a bunch of no votes on the basis that it's effectively two different aspect ratios, but I don't think this makes sense. We don't normally enter child profiles for different aspect ratios. Also, both child profiles are listed as having an AR of 2.89:1. One of the discs on the main profile is listed as "Special Smilebox Process Transfer" and the child profiles don't seem to add any information to this. Both discs have the same cut of the same movie with the same audio options, etc. So how should we handle this? Do we do no child profiles and just let the special feature notes and disc info convey that there's a Smilebox version, declare the rectangular version the main version (it's disc one) and the Smilebox as some sort of alternate and create a child profile for it or treat like a box set and create child profiles for both? | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | There are many profiles in the database that have a single double-sided disc with Widescreen on 1 side and the Pan & Scan on the other. They don't have child profiles for each aspect ratio. It's not different media type such as Blu-ray/DVD where a child profile is allowed but not necessary. I would say the Smilebox is just a bonus version. So I would say 1 profile and no children. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | Unique case, WS/FS is similar but different and is an appropriate comparison. SmileVision is also not listed in the Video section of the program. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | The hardest thing to do in the database is to remove bad/invalid/wrong data from a profile. Even when you use the rules as written as your basis. It is so much easier to include bad data in a profile, just need to exploit the grey areas of the rules, quote bits and pieces of comments made years ago that have never made it into a rule update, or direct the voters/screeners to a straw poll. |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Posts: 824 |
| Posted: | | | | Users seem to want "child" profiles for everything. It's misused like crazy, gets into the online, attempts to fix it get downvoted, developers do/say nothing about it.
Pathetic. | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,685 |
| Posted: | | | | I strongly dislike the use of child profiles for something that isn't actually a box set. This is definitely bad database design. It's bad enough that Ken decided that combo sets should be handled as quasi-boxsets, please let's not spread this misuse further! | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Not a box set, no children, merely a mention in the "Other Features" field. |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Looks like this is going to be one of those things where the forum goes one way and the contribution vote goes another. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with the others... not a box set. I would probably update my notes with the reasoning and a link to this thread. | | | Pete |
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Registered: November 24, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,289 |
| Posted: | | | | Agreed. Only a 'Box Set' if there are two unique films. | | | Last edited: by GreyHulk |
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