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4K internal disc drive for PC
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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A warning for anyone who uses a LG drive to read the disc-id of Ultra HD Blu-rays: LG released firmware updates for some drives to "Improve BD UHD disc compatibility". However, in reality these updates close a loophole in AACS. The result is that DVD Profiler can not use the drive anymore to read the disc-id.

More information: https://www.myce.com/news/lg-blu-ray-burner-firmware-update-closes-aacs-2-0-loophole-cant-downgraded-83322/
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I see that native UHD ripping is now out. (I am fortunate to have a couple of 'friendly' blu-ray players in the pc. DO NOT do a firmware update as this removes the loophole to enable ripping.

I have done a few titles, and seems to work OK. Keeps HDR and Dolby Vision intact.
I placed the HDD with them on onto the Oppo, and the picture came up with the HDR / Dolby Vision logo. Also keeps the full HD soundtrack.

I personally would not bother doing this, prefer to own the legit copies. And at 50gig a rip, a lot of wasted space. Only averages 1hr to do the ripping.

OK looks like only the 70 titles that were compromised are covered. But more are being added all the time. I happened to test on 'good' titles. Tryed The Shape of Water, and not supported at this time.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantObiKen
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To answer mreeder50's original questions:

a. yes, installing a 4K internal drive in your PC will allow DVDprofiler to capture the 4K Disc ID for profiling purposes.  I use a Pioneer BDR-211EBK (the last three letters will vary for each country) for this purpose.

b. It is possible to watch a 4K UHD disc on your PC, however, you will need a lot more than what you specified, plus a deeper pocket  :-(

I have a Coffee Lake i5-8600K CPU on a ASUS PRIME Z370-P motherboard with Intel SGX, on-board Intel Graphics UHD630 processor with HDCP2.2 support over HDMI connected to a LG 32" 4K HDR monitor which is also HDCP 2.2 compliant through HDMI 2.0a connectors.

With the above setup, you can run Cyberlink's PowerDVD 17 Ultra on Windows 10 (64 bit) with the Pioneer optical drive and watch 4K discs.

Unfortunately, HDR support is dependant on bandwidth through the HDMI path, and the ASUS Z370 motherboard (and the majority of modern boards) only has a single embedded HDMI 1.4b connector, which restricts the bandwidth to 4K (no HDR) at 24Hz.  HDR playback (or lack of it) is just an optional requirement in PowerDVD17 software, it is not a game-breaker.

If the motherboard had HDMI 2.0a then I would be able to watch 4K discs with HDR on my LG monitor.

The following link shows some compatible motherboards for UltraHD playback:

Switching the Intel Graphics off in the BIOS and reverting to a third party graphics card (in my case, a GTX-1070 card which is HDCP 2.2 compliant over HDMI 2.0a) would allow me to run Windows 10 (latest version) in HDR mode (naturally, I need to switch the monitor's HDMI cable to the GTX-1070 HDMI 2.0a connector).

So 4K gaming with HDR (frame rate would be restricted to 60Hz) on Windows 10 will work with the GTX-1070 :-)

But I cannot use PowerDVD17 Ultra with this card (or any other third party card that is HDCP 2.2 compliant) to watch 4K movie discs :-(

At the end of the day, if you want the 4K disc info, then invest in an internal 4K optical drive and use DVDprofiler software to extract the information.

If you want to watch a 4K disc on your 4K PC monitor (with HDR) then invest in a 4K player (with HDR support), it's definitely a cheaper option :-)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Thanks ObiKen for the info, I had given up on 4K as being a bit to much for my wallet given all the upgrades I would need. The drives have come down in price which is getting me thinking about it again.
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