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Tool: TmdbCheck (possibly unneccesary)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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Why did I develop TmdbCheck?

I guess I can "blame" Mamo for this.    When he announced his program MDBtoDVDP, I learned that The Movie DB has an API. I thought that was interesting. I liked what Mamo had done, but at the same time I thought that it wasn't how I would have done it. So it became sort of an intellectual challenge.

Why would it be unnecessary?

Well, The Movie DB (TMDb) has one thing going for it. It actually encourages people to use its data (through the API), unlike IMDb which does the exact opposite. So if you develop a program against TMDb it should just keep working. BUT ... the big problem with TMDb is that it is far less comprehensive then IMDb when it comes to cast and crew, especially for somewhat older movies. Using DJ Doenas CastCrewEdit2 plus my CastCrewCheck is probably more efficient.

What does it do?

It fetches cast and crew information from The Movie DB and it lets you verify it against the actual movie credits if you play the movie on your PC. You can check off the credits as you see them, and edit them if necessary.

What doesn't it do?

At this point in time it is limited to the credits that are actually in TMDb. It won't let you add missing credits.

Will this, or other features be added later?

Perhaps, if anyone find it useful and asks for it. Right now I consider it more of a toy than a useful tool.
If you want to play with it and see what it can do, you can get it here.

Is there a help file?

Nah! Documentation is boring, and as long as I consider this a toy, you'll just have to figure things out by yourselves. But feel free to ask if you are wondering about something.
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Why did I develop TmdbCheck?
I guess I can "blame" Mamo for this.    When he announced his program MDBtoDVDP, I learned that The Movie DB has an API. I thought that was interesting. I liked what Mamo had done, but at the same time I thought that it wasn't how I would have done it. So it became sort of an intellectual challenge.

Happy to have helped to introduce you to something new.
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Why would it be unnecessary?
Well, The Movie DB (TMDb) has one thing going for it. It actually encourages people to use its data (through the API), unlike IMDb which does the exact opposite. So if you develop a program against TMDb it should just keep working. BUT ... the big problem with TMDb is that it is far less comprehensive then IMDb when it comes to cast and crew, especially for somewhat older movies.

TMDb is a relatively young project, so it is not as complete as IMDB, but as you said it is open and invites users to use it and complete the film listings if they are incomplete.
Consider then that in fact is the platform from which many multimedia players draw information. For example KODI. So it will probably be more and more completed.
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Using DJ Doenas CastCrewEdit2 plus my CastCrewCheck is probably more efficient.

I do not know if I'm the only one that happens, but lately the excellent CastCrewEdit2 (which I've used for years) is exasperatingly slow. Hence the need to find alternatives.
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What does it do?
It fetches cast and crew information from The Movie DB and it lets you verify it against the actual movie credits if you play the movie on your PC. You can check off the credits as you see them, and edit them if necessary.

It may be that I will take inspiration from this possibility.
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Is there a help file?
Nah! Documentation is boring, and as long as I consider this a toy, you'll just have to figure things out by yourselves. But feel free to ask if you are wondering about something.

I agree.
It's the most boring thing and for most users it's also useless. So they do not read them (myself included)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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I do not know if I'm the only one that happens, but lately the excellent CastCrewEdit2 (which I've used for years) is exasperatingly slow.

Karsten added a bunch of functions that slows down CastCrewEdit2, but if you configure it "correctly" it isn't very slow.

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It's the most boring thing and for most users it's also useless. So they do not read them (myself included)

Yeah, well I do try to make my help files as easy to read as possible. So if people complain that they don't understand how the program works I can at least tell them that it's their own fault for not reading the help file. 

By the way, when you search TMDb you get one or more pages of 20 results each. It seems you only use one page of results. I use up to 40 pages, enabling up to 800 matches. There can be more than 40 pages, but if you loop through more than 40 you'll get trapped by TMDb's "40 calls in 10 seconds" limit.
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Quoting Mamo:
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I do not know if I'm the only one that happens, but lately the excellent CastCrewEdit2 (which I've used for years) is exasperatingly slow.

Karsten added a bunch of functions that slows down CastCrewEdit2, but if you configure it "correctly" it isn't very slow.

I probably did not read the help     


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By the way, when you search TMDb you get one or more pages of 20 results each. It seems you only use one page of results. I use up to 40 pages, enabling up to 800 matches. There can be more than 40 pages, but if you loop through more than 40 you'll get trapped by TMDb's "40 calls in 10 seconds" limit.

It is true. I use only the first page. I considered (but probably this is not always the case) that already in the first 20 results you will get what you were looking for.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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I considered (but probably this is not always the case) that already in the first 20 results you will get what you were looking for.

Usually true if you know the exact title you're looking for. However, if you would be looking for the 1966 horror movie "It!" with Roddy McDowall, that would come in at place 91. 
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Will this, or other features be added later?

Perhaps, if anyone find it useful and asks for it. Right now I consider it more of a toy than a useful tool.
If you want to play with it and see what it can do, you can get it here.


Thanks for creating this program 

First here is an issue; when viewing "cast" or "crew", I can't see or find any "Scroll Bars", if the cast/crew has more than about 15/16 entries, I can't access them. Am I doing something wrong? (I am using Windows 10 64bit)

Second, I would like a feature that would allow to search for TV show seasons. Then, I would like to be able to Copy the "episode list information" including "episode number", "name", "Aired Date" and "description".  Then, I would like to be able to Paste the list into the "overview" of a profile.

Regards,
Zappman
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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First here is an issue; when viewing "cast" or "crew", I can't see or find any "Scroll Bars", if the cast/crew has more than about 15/16 entries, I can't access them

Darn! I had that working, but a late change in the program screwed it up without my noticing. Sorry! It should work now.

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Second, I would like a feature that would allow to search for TV show seasons.

Well, that's a horse of a different color. TV Shows is a whole other part of the TMDb API that I haven't even started to look at. But now you have piqued my curiosity,so who knows ... No promises, though.

Version 1.0.1
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Thanks for creation of Version 1.0.1, the scroll bars work great.

Found a possible issue.
In "crew" paste, "Production Sound  Mixer" gives an XML error.
If I edit the "role" by selecting "Production Sound Mixer" then the "crew" paste works properly.
I think there is an extra space between "Sound" and "Mixer" that is causing the issue.

Regards,
Zappman
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In "crew" paste, "Production Sound  Mixer" gives an XML error.
If I edit the "role" by selecting "Production Sound Mixer" then the "crew" paste works properly.
I think there is an extra space between "Sound" and "Mixer" that is causing the issue.

Right you are. I'll fix that for the next version. In the meantime you can fix it yourself by editing the file JobMap.dat, line 27, and remove the extra blank. That should fix it.
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Quoting zappman:
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In "crew" paste, "Production Sound  Mixer" gives an XML error.
If I edit the "role" by selecting "Production Sound Mixer" then the "crew" paste works properly.
I think there is an extra space between "Sound" and "Mixer" that is causing the issue.

Right you are. I'll fix that for the next version. In the meantime you can fix it yourself by editing the file JobMap.dat, line 27, and remove the extra blank. That should fix it.


Thanks, edited the file, the crew paste function works correctly. 
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