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Loss of Custom Roles
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSpikyCactus
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Hello.  Is anyone able to tell me how to sort this issue out please?

I've been adding some custom roles to my local database, which I can see when I look at my collection online, once I've updated the latter from my local.  However, when I then download my online database to my local computer (and tablet) I lose the custom roles; the names remain but the roles are blank.

I wouldn't normally do this, but I've got a new computer recently and installed DVD Profiler on that and then downloaded my online collection to it, thinking it would bring with it all the custom roles that it shows.

I have a feeling I'm doing something very stupid, but can't work out what. 

Thanks!
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Probably the only way to port over custom roles is from a saved backup, not via the download from online.
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The online does not show custom roles. CubbyUps is right. Also, one very big problem I have been telling invelos about for years about custom roles is this:

If you use custom roles and then update from a contribution, you will get duplicate names and roles, example.

John Smith ... Visual Effects and you change it to John Smith ... Visual Effects Supervisor, then later down the road someone updates the profile and you download that update, you will get John Smith ... Visual Effects in the original position you had your custom role and your John Smith ... Visual Effects Supervisor will be placed at the bottom of the Art section. It's an extreme pain the the A _ _ you either have to write down the changes and do them manually or go ahead and update the profile from the online and copy the custom roles from your duplicate to the new one or move your duplicates back where they belong and in both cases you will have to delete the duplicates.

Note: I keep all my Crew credits locked until I see which way I want to handle the update. Also, your online collection will show your custom roles, but not the online profile.

I really wish Ken would fix this.
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The online does not show custom roles. CubbyUps is right. Also, one very big problem I have been telling invelos about for years about custom roles is this:

If you use custom roles and then update from a contribution, you will get duplicate names and roles, example.

John Smith ... Visual Effects and you change it to John Smith ... Visual Effects Supervisor, then later down the road someone updates the profile and you download that update, you will get John Smith ... Visual Effects in the original position you had your custom role and your John Smith ... Visual Effects Supervisor will be placed at the bottom of the Art section. It's an extreme pain the the A _ _ you either have to write down the changes and do them manually or go ahead and update the profile from the online and copy the custom roles from your duplicate to the new one or move your duplicates back where they belong and in both cases you will have to delete the duplicates.

Note: I keep all my Crew credits locked until I see which way I want to handle the update. Also, your online collection will show your custom roles, but not the online profile.

I really wish Ken would fix this.



Seen that too about the duplicates. Now I know what's causing it.

I wonder why Ken can't have the program ignore custom roles. Why have it set up where it ignores what you have locally anyway and put in a duplicate entry for the same person just because one is using a custom role for the standard role/credit.

On a somewhat related note, wish he'd also add where one can enable the ability to have the program ignore Fake Birth Years. It frankly gets a little annoying having to go through updated profiles and weed through highlighted changes which are only due to locally fake birth years.
Why not just have where any birth date that is 3000 or above is automatically ignored by both the program and the contribution page?
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On a somewhat related note, wish he'd also add where one can enable the ability to have the program ignore Fake Birth Years.

That's why I quit using the Headshots updates and work on acquiring my own.
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Thanks guys.  Had a feeling it wasn't going to be easy to sort out.  Guess I'll have to re-enter all those On-set Caterers, First Aiders and 2nd 4th Assistant Part-time Trainee Directors I'm so keen on tracking.  Now I'm just going to have to watch the films all over again.  Honestly, what a chore.  That Ken guy is so much trouble! 
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Thanks guys.  Had a feeling it wasn't going to be easy to sort out.  Guess I'll have to re-enter all those On-set Caterers, First Aiders and 2nd 4th Assistant Part-time Trainee Directors I'm so keen on tracking.  Now I'm just going to have to watch the films all over again.  Honestly, what a chore.  That Ken guy is so much trouble! 

Are you kidding? Or do people actually track that sort of thing????    I continue to be amazed by the amount of detail real die-hard movie-DVD collectors care about. Maybe you are in the industry? Anyway, to me, it is simply amazing ...
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Thanks guys.  Had a feeling it wasn't going to be easy to sort out.  Guess I'll have to re-enter all those On-set Caterers, First Aiders and 2nd 4th Assistant Part-time Trainee Directors I'm so keen on tracking.  Now I'm just going to have to watch the films all over again.  Honestly, what a chore.  That Ken guy is so much trouble! 

Are you kidding? Or do people actually track that sort of thing????    I continue to be amazed by the amount of detail real die-hard movie-DVD collectors care about. Maybe you are in the industry? Anyway, to me, it is simply amazing ...


Don't panic, I was joking, more or less.  I'm mostly interested in tracking the music used in films, although I do record the 'lesser' director and producer credits too, plus 'other' unit ones and some extra visual effects roles.  The latter often have their own directors, producers, DoPs, Editors etc that I think it's interesting to keep a record of them too.

More generally I have asked myself many times why I do this, but I've yet to come up with a convincing answer.  I think it's just human nature, or at least mine anyway.  I'm not in the industry at all.

Gave away about 2,000 DVD and Blu-ray cases today to someone, as I'd literally run out of space at home to store anymore movies in their own boxes on shelves, so all the ones that didn't have interesting cases, slip covers, were part of box sets, or contain more than one disc, got rehoused into three 'flight cases' that fit under a futon in the lounge.  (Also excluded all the Marvel and DC related ones, my little collection of 4K ones and all TV, which all remain on shelves for the time being.)  I'd forgotten how wide my lounge really was!
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Hey, good on you for your generosity! 

I thought you were kind of joking, but for lazy guys like me, it never ceases to amaze me how much enthusiasm there is around here for getting the details straight. I do enjoy the benefits whenever I download a profile. Truly grateful to all you fanatics! 
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