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																	| Registered: May 20, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 2,934 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Has anybody had experience with Denon equipment.
  I am considering buying the
  DBP-2010CI: Reference Blu-ray/DVD/CD Player.  and before I put out$700 for it, I want to know if anybody has had any issues with Denon equipment.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |    Posts: 1,796 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Not in decades, but why Denon? I would and have bought an  OPPO BDP-83 for $499.00.  |   |   |  We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln |  
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 3,206 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Or the Nuforce edition, if you want a really good CD-player.  |  
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |    Posts: 21,610 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Charlie:
  Denon is still an excellent machine in any book. BUT, that said give the Oppos a look. What sopecifically are you after in a deck.
  But were in the market right now, I would be looking at Oppo. Even at that something to give some consideration to if you are looking now, and don't poo-poo it, is the new 3D standard, and yes i do have thoughts in that area. it's getting to become a very complex market.  |   |   |  ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 2,934 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Quoting Kinoniki: Quote: Or the Nuforce edition, if you want a really good CD-player. The new force edition is more than I want to spend(wife put me on a budget) Oppo seems very interesting, seems to review very well for  its pricepoint.  I don't know about 3d.  Denon has a 3d reference player coming out (bdp2011 i think).  Oppo is sure to follow soon.   I am not in a rush, that is only 1 component I am looking at.  I am rebuilding my home theater (actually constructing in basement proper lighting and a popcorn machine included)   I have my receiver and speakers already.  very happy with my marantz receiver that my wife bought me (needed a replacement, blew out my old one after 8 years).  I am building my own custom speakers so those will not be an issue.  The last 2 items are a good refernce player and a screen.  Still researching Charlie  |  
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |    Posts: 21,610 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  A screen so you are using a projector. That will actually be a plus in 3D  |   |   |  ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 2,934 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: A screen so you are using a projector. That will actually be a plus in 3D I will consider 3D as long as it isn't at the expense of other features.  I like my Audio, it must be sharp and crisp (that is why I build my own speakers)  regular BD video must be sharp and smooth, with proper color presentation. And in a true movie theater, why would I not use a projector?  |  
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |    Posts: 21,610 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Projector's have their pros and cons particularly with today's LED flat panels. The LEDs will deliver a sharper and crisper picture with far better contrast ratios. BUT they are limited in size unless you have BIG money    and I would give the edge to Projectors for 3D work. The flat panels use a technology refered to as Active Shutter in the glasses, the glasses interact with the screen via wireless link and the Active Shutter has the lenses turning on and off at a very fast rate, alternating left right left, etc. faster than you can see it but it's there nonetheless. This technology is not cheap, I think the glasses are about $150 per pair. The projector's from a 3D viewpoint will be able to use glasses very similar to what is used theatrically...much cheaper. I don't know how soon we are going to begin seeing 3D projectors, but it is worth your thinking about it  |   |   |  ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 |  Reputation:   |  | Posts: 3,005 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Are there even any projectors on the market yet that do 3D?  |  
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 6,018 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  A comparative test in the German Video HomeVision magazine gave the edge to Panasonic's plasma-based 3D solution over Samsung's and Sony's LED-LCD 3D screens.
  Personally, however, if I were buying now, 3D would not be my primary concern.
  Returning to the OP's questions: I have had plenty of good experience with Denon equipment. Always excellent build quality (their better models are really built like a tank), and its machines have always been very reliable for me. That said, the Oppo BDP-83 is definitely a serious contender. I bought a region-modded 83 last year and have been very happy with it. What gives it the edge over a Denon machine is its lightning speed as well as some fairly unique features such as subtitle shift (useful for non-anamorphic DVDs). Also, Denons are more sensitive to disc faults than the Oppo.
  EDIT: is the Marantz receiver you have up-to-date? Can it decode all Hi-Def audio formats as well as DSD (SACD)? In that case going for the standard Oppo would be a no-brainer and also give you SACD and DVD-Audio playback - you could spend some of the money you saved on getting some SACD and DVD-A discs to enjoy high-quality music.  |   |   |  |  Last edited:  by dee1959jay |  
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 2,934 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Some interesting information  Will have to consider.
  Oppo my very well be a better choice, considering, my receiver can do all the decoding
  @Deejay, my wife bought me the SR6004 that I requested.  It replaced a sherwood that I  had.  The Sherwood was good for the money, but the Marantz blows it out of the water.  |  
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |    Posts: 21,610 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Are there even any projectors on the market yet that do 3D? Ummm Ace, I think if you re-read my post you might be able to figure out that I answered yiour question BEFORE you asked it. Which leaves me wonderiing WHY you asked.  |   |   |  ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 |  Reputation:   |    Posts: 6,018 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Quoting CharlieM: Quote: Some interesting information  Will have to consider.
  Oppo my very well be a better choice, considering, my receiver can do all the decoding
  @Deejay, my wife bought me the SR6004 that I requested.  It replaced a sherwood that I  had.  The Sherwood was good for the money, but the Marantz blows it out of the water. Very nice receiver, congrats! Nice touch: bluetooth! Since it can decode anything and can do so very well, I wouldn't worry about the audio decoding capabilities of any player you'd be buying, so for instance in case of the Oppo: do NOT invest in the Special Edition with better D/A decoding but go for the standard release and spend your savings on something else. The standard Oppo will combine very well with your receiver - let the Marantz handle the audio and let the Oppo use its superior video upconversion on standard DVD, and you'll be fine!  |  
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 |  Reputation:   |  | Posts: 3,005 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
 Quote: Are there even any projectors on the market yet that do 3D?  Ummm Ace, I think if you re-read my post you might be able to figure out that I answered yiour question BEFORE you asked it. Which leaves me wonderiing WHY you asked. I ask because you could also use active shutter for a projector. You need a specialized screen to do polarized and I'm betting it costs more for the projector as well.  |  
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  | Posts: 811 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  Quoting CharlieM: Quote: Has anybody had experience with Denon equipment.
  I am considering buying the
  DBP-2010CI: Reference Blu-ray/DVD/CD Player.  and before I put out$700 for it, I want to know if anybody has had any issues with Denon equipment.
  Charlie I've owned several of their universal CD / DVD players in the past, and they have always worked great with DVD's great although occasionally do not want to read a CD on first attempt. I think they continue to make excellent players, but imo their current Blu-ray players seem over priced compared to machines like the Oppo or even the Sony PS3  |  
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| Registered: June 26, 2007 |    Posts: 2,049 |  
  | | Posted:  |  |   |   |  I worked at an electronic Retailer until just recently and all Denon Products we had in the Hi-Fi Dept, be it Receiver, CD Player or BD Player the were all top notch.. Also not even once was one of those items returned by a customer... That said, one usually can't go wrong with Denon.. (Or Onkyo but they have yet to release a really good BD Player)  |   |   |  | Check out my Youtube channel under https://www.youtube.com/user/alittleolder |  
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