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| Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would like to know if I am misreading the rules on the Original Title feature, when applied to a TV series
After reading the rule I conclude that the OT should be the title of the original broadcast.
Title: The X-Files: Complete Season 1
OT: The X-Files |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | While the season indicator is listed in the title field... it is not part of the title. So in your example... The X-Files is the title... and since that is the original title per rules the original title field is left blank.
There is a reason for this... some people use the original title to list their collection (is in the options)... if we have The X-Files: The Complete First Season and then use The X-Files in the original title field... then for the people that use original title option for their list only see multiple (in this case 9 if they have them all) listings for just The X-Files. In other words it becomes useless for those using Original Titles for their listings. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,515 |
| | Posted: | | | | The title of the original release (on DVD in this case) was this: The X-Files: The Complete First Season. Now, on Blu-Ray, it's The X-Files: The Complete Season 1. If it comes out on UHD 4K or whatever future format and is called The X-Files: Season One, is that a different credit than the previous 2? No. Same season, same credit, so it needs the Original Title of the first release. In this case (the Blu's), it's The X-Files: The Complete First Season. As a further example, Tauyna Dee was in episode 4 of this first season. If left without an original title, this would be 2 separate credits in the database. Was she in 2 different X-Files series season 1's. No. I blame Fox for this.  | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
While the season indicator is listed in the title field... it is not part of the title. So in your example... The X-Files is the title... and since that is the original title per rules the original title field is left blank.
There is a reason for this... some people use the original title to list their collection (is in the options)... if we have The X-Files: The Complete First Season and then use The X-Files in the original title field... then for the people that use original title option for their list only see multiple (in this case 9 if they have them all) listings for just The X-Files. In other words it becomes useless for those using Original Titles for their listings. A contradiction to your own post five minutes ago, where you voted for season-less original title. This is a new record.  | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | You are misunderstanding my previous post. I knew I was unclear but I had to leave for work so couldn't clarify. This has been discussed before... when talking about TV series only the title counts not the season indicator. My lunch break is over... will have to try to clarify tomorrow. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only reason I'm asking this is because there is a pending contribution that is using this:
title: X-Files: The Complete Season 1
OT: The X-Files: The complete First Season
The title used is for the Blu-ray, while the OT is using the DVD version. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well since X-Files didn't originate on DVD... it can't be used as the ORIGINAL title. So it should should be voted down for that reason alone. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,668 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Well since X-Files didn't originate on DVD... it can't be used as the ORIGINAL title. So it should should be voted down for that reason alone. One *could* argue that the season in it's entirety, *does* have a first and therefore "original" release on DVD. Sure, the individual episodes were broadcast on TV, but not the entire season at once. As such, you could say that the first time the entire season, as a whole, was released on DVD, automatically becomes that season's original title for other and future re-releases of the same season. Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Same season, same credit, so it needs the Original Title of the first release. It's as simple as that, yeah. At least, that's how it should be: one credit should result in one title in the CLT. As I said in a different thread, though, this community will never manage that on it's own without a clear rule on the matter. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Same season, same credit, so it needs the Original Title of the first release. No!We shouldn't muck up data to conform the (IMHO broken) credit system of DVD Profiler! The OT of the X-Files is X-Files | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | If we are thinking of doing this only because of the CLT then I think it's wrong to create artificial linking.
I think that something like a CLT automatic filter system could be applied so that "The Complete First Season" ="The Complete Season 1" and vice-versa. Of course taking into account other variations such as just "Season One", "Season 1" and even foreign language variations. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry but I completely disagree in any way that the DVD release of any TV show is the original release. That entire idea is completely and utterly ridiculous to me! | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,515 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Sorry but I completely disagree in any way that the DVD release of any TV show is the original release. That entire idea is completely and utterly ridiculous to me! Not any show, just this one because it was the first home video release that Profiler uses. VHS was the first for the X-Files, but we don't track VHS in the database. | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,515 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
If we are thinking of doing this only because of the CLT then I think it's wrong to create artificial linking.
I think that something like a CLT automatic filter system could be applied so that "The Complete First Season" ="The Complete Season 1" and vice-versa. Of course taking into account other variations such as just "Season One", "Season 1" and even foreign language variations. YES! YES! YES! That would be awesome! | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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Sorry but I completely disagree in any way that the DVD release of any TV show is the original release. That entire idea is completely and utterly ridiculous to me!
Not any show, just this one because it was the first home video release that Profiler uses. VHS was the first for the X-Files, but we don't track VHS in the database. It doesn't matter... the original release of any TV series is on TV not on any form of home video. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
It doesn't matter... the original release of any TV series is on TV not on any form of home video. Why? Because you decided? The producers decided to produce a show. They released it on Video first - for what reason ever. Why should the release date be a later one??  | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,427 |
| | Posted: | | | | From rules: Quote:
Original Title
The Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title. For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits. | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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