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HD DVD and Blu-ray (Part 2)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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I agree that DVD only players will eventually be phased out.  Sure you can still buy a VCR.  But I bet you couldn't if DVD players were backward compatible with VHS tapes.  I don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine a day when DVDs will be phased out as well.  There's nothing stopping a person from playing a Blu-ray disc on a Blu-ray player today on a conventional SD display.  In fact, there's even a few minor improvements you'd get.

If they can ween people off DVD only players, then it's a lot easier to ween them off SD DVDs.  The only barrier at this point is cost.  But that will sort itself out eventually.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantZoeper
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uhm... what is a VCR
I still don't have a HD television but I am seriously looking into getting a nice blue player... 'cept where to buy it... the USA or USE
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I still don't have a HD television but I am seriously looking into getting a nice blue player... 'cept where to buy it... the USA or USE


Well, if you do get one, you'll appreciate the more advanced menuing, better extras, better colors, better sound and you'll be ready for when you do get an HDTV.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorFunkyLA
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Just for info, BBC News re: BluRay and early adopters

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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Just for info, BBC News re: BluRay and early adopters

No comment on this by me


That's why I went with the PS3.  At least I knew about the problem going in.  I feel sorry for the fools who just walk into a store and pick up a player without doing any research ahead of time.

I'm not sure I'll even use the advanced features (I haven't on HD DVD), but I want the ability to be there if I ever change my mind.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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Old players will still work and you can watch newer movies on them.  PiP and web features just won't work.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantZoeper
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Indeed, and a player is cheaper then a good HD tv
and I need to talk to my partner on spending soooo much dough

It's obvious who is the boss at home Watch out Funky

Good article btw, but most important thing is to watch the movie itself.
I stopped buying 2 disc editions (except ofcourse when the two disc had an extended cut)
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Just for info, BBC News re: BluRay and early adopters

No comment on this by me


That's why I went with the PS3.  At least I knew about the problem going in.  I feel sorry for the fools who just walk into a store and pick up a player without doing any research ahead of time.

I'm not sure I'll even use the advanced features (I haven't on HD DVD), but I want the ability to be there if I ever change my mind.

Same for me... Timing is good.

I will go the reverse way, upgrading the TV first and then, in few months time, when Profile 2 players are readily available, I will probably be buying a blu player. (By that time, referecing a post in another thread, I suppose the fat lady started singing...)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBattling Butler
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Just for info, BBC News re: BluRay and early adopters

No comment on this by me


Typical Sony biz as usual, punish the early adopters 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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Old players will still work and you can watch newer movies on them.  PiP and web features just won't work.


That's absolutely true.  But I still want a 2.0 player.  It's not about wanting to watch the bonus stuff, it's about being able to if I ever change my mind.

Still, there will be some upset people when they discover that although the movie plays, not all the bonus material will.  Not everyone is as up-to-date as we are.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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With Warner going blue and my recent purchase of a PS3 player, I've decided to remove any existing blocks I've had on any users of this forum.  Hopefully with the war all but over, things will be a little different around here.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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I think it's a good thing the format war ended. Some people fear that prices can be kept high since there's no more competition. I believe this is not the case. Too many people were holding off on switching to Hi-Def because they were afraid of picking the losing format. I think sales can really get a boost now. There is only one big issue in Europe. Besides the PS3, all available players are profile 1.0 
It's about time the vendors start releasing at least profile 1.1 players here.
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Didn't Philips release a 1.1 in Europe?
I guess we have to wait for a at least a 1.1 and rather 2.0 profile player...
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Not really.  At this point, HDM will be lucky to make it to the point laserdisc was at.  DVD is pretty well entrenched and easily "good enough" for the mass market.  This isn't a difference between VHS and DVD, which was obvious.  It's a modest increase in quality that is unrecognizable to most people.  HDM might manage to get a niche, or it might just wither away like DVD-Audio and SACD.

I agree to a point. Laserdisc was only ever promoted in USA and Japan. HDM is promoted world wide, and the Home Cinema crowd is a lot larger today than it was during the times of LD, so I don't think it'll wither away. But I do agree that DVD is good enough for the mass market.

In Norway they promoted the LD at some market places I visited, this is a loooong time ago and it was a flopp, due to the very low number of features. Only Nine (if I remember) features was available at that time, with norwegian text that was...  I actually own one of this features with TV text posibility, cool colectors item. 
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Didn't Philips release a 1.1 in Europe?
I guess we have to wait for a at least a 1.1 and rather 2.0 profile player...


I think the BDP7100 is still 1.0. The BDP7200 is 1.1 but no release date as of yet.
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I went red back on July 4, 2006 and bought a PS3 and went purple back in May of 2007.  Like most people, I am glad this format war may be winding down.  I have 4 HD-DVD combo disc.  I only want to buy 1 out of those 4 on Blu-ray to have the movie in HD and that is Order of the Phoenix.  The other 3 are fine watching the DVD side and letting the PS3 upconvert them.  I have 2 HD DVD only disc that I also have in SD, King Kong and Van Helsing.  Only King King would I be willing to get on Blu-ray.  I have 5 HD DVDs that I do not have in any other format.  Transformers is the only one that I must have in HD.  The others I could replace with SD and be happy.  However, if any of the disc get released on Blu-ray for the same price as SD, I will buy Blu. 

The way things stand now, I will not be buying any more HD DVDs.  I only have a total of 11, and I do not want to have to keep a separate player in my living room taking up space to only play 11 HD DVD. 

Don't get me wrong, I have been very happy with my HD DVD player, but I have also been happy with Blu-ray on my PS3.  I think there will be a lot of people thinking along these lines and stop buying HD DVD disc even though they have a player.  This in turn will force Universal and Paramount to go Blu if they want to sell HD disc and the days of HD DVD will be over.
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