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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVibroCount
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If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

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Hey look, it's PACMAN!
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Hey look, it's PACMAN!


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If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

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I can answer just about any Star Trek question out there.  I think that would qualify me to speak as a true Trekkie.


... a true Trekkie, with close to 2000 DVDs and not one of them a Star Trek title. 

As he can answer just about any question regarding Star Trek, they must have been memorized very well and therefore the DVDs are not needed.

Exactly!  Plus they I can find them on TV through various channels.
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Farscape goes for $90+.  Are you saying that means Farscape can really fetch those prices?  Only to a few people...not me and I love Farscape.


If it couldn't fetch those prices, they would have dropped the price by now.  Since they haven't, then logic dictates they can. 

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I can answer just about any Star Trek question out there.  I think that would qualify me to speak as a true Trekkie.


Make up your mind.  In your first post you said you were, "somewhat of a Trekkie."  Now, in an attempt to bolster your point, you are a 'true Trekkie'. 

Farscape use to go for $110.  Didn't sell.  It's down to $90.  Much of the same.

Somewhat of a Trekkie meaning I don't go to conventions.
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Hey look, it's PACMAN!


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I know you think that chart means something between Blu-ray and HD DVD.  I will refer to this chart when HD DVD is basically dead and the chart looks about the same.  Does that sound fair?
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According to Bill Hunt, Trekkies groanded at comic con when they heard that the price for Star Trek would be $217. He also said that they were not happy that it would only be the remastered versions. And to further this, he stated that out of 500 uber hardcore trekkies, only 3 said they would spend the $217.

I gueess there are something's that even UBER TREKKIES won't buy.

Also, looks like this may come out on Blu-ray sometime in 2008.
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According to Bill Hunt, Trekkies groanded at comic con when they heard that the price for Star Trek would be $217. He also said that they were not happy that it would only be the remastered versions. And to further this, he stated that out of 500 uber hardcore trekkies, only 3 said they would spend the $217.

I gueess there are something's that even UBER TREKKIES won't buy.

Also, looks like this may come out on Blu-ray sometime in 2008.


That is a surprise.  I guess Paramount has gotten all the milk they are going to get out of that cow...
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Weather HD DVD or Blue-ray wins the format battle has nothing to do with who has the better quality. The winner will be decided by the vast majority of people who have $39 DVD players from Walmart, who rent movies from Blockbuster on weekend to watch on their 27 inch TVs. They buy on price. When they decide to move up to HD they will buy the cheapest available. That is why VHS beat out Beta. I think that is why HD will win. Sony hasn’t learned from it’s mistakes.
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I know you think that chart means something between Blu-ray and HD DVD.  I will refer to this chart when HD DVD is basically dead and the chart looks about the same.  Does that sound fair?


Please hold your breath until that time ............
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from Audioholics -

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/future-high-speed-internet.html


Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet


by David Waratuke — July 27, 2007
Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet

Fast Internet - Really Fast

Ever in danger of becoming irrelevant before they even really get started, high-definition DVD formats may have more to fear from Internet content downloading than previously believed.

       

According to the Associated Press and Swedish newspaper, ‘the Local’, a Swedish woman of 75 may have the fastest residential internet connection to date.

Swedish woman gets superfast internet

Sigbritt, 75, has world's fastest broadband

Sigbritt Lothberg of Karlstad, Sweden now has a 40Gbps internet connection thanks to her son, Peter Lothberg, networking guru and consultant to Cisco Systems, and Hfsteinn Jonsson, head of Karlstad Stadsnat, owner of the local network. The connection was intended as a demonstration of how to build high speed, low cost, long distance internet connections to get internet providers interested in developing and investing in the technology.

The technology is based on a fiber optic connection and a new modulation technique that allows high speed data transfer up to 2000 kilometers between routers with no intermediate transponders. The developers claim that distance is theoretically unlimited with no data loss.

The connection speed is fast enough that ‘the Local’ says Sigbritt could now watch 1500 HD television channels simultaneously or down load an entire HD movie in 2 seconds.

Now, assuming a VC-1 encoded movie on a dual layer HD-DVD, which holds 30GB, 40Gbps equals 5GBps, a full download of a maxed out disc would be roughly 6 seconds at the maximum transfer rate. Also using HD-DVD for a baseline comparison, raw data transfer is a maximum at 36.55Mbps, which would allow simultaneous transmission of 1094 channels at this throughput.

To give some perspective, the latest SATA hard drives operate at 3Gbps, accounting for coding overhead, about 2.4Gbps or 0.3 GBps and current internet providers, such as Comcast boast about 6Mbps so the same 30GB download would take 40,000 seconds, or slightly over 11 hours and 6 minutes at maximum throughput.

Bottom line is the transfer rate exceeds the ability of current hard disc technology to read/write the data. That's fast, and bound to open up new avenues for storage innovation.

If the technology is in fact as easy to implement and low cost as the developers claim, this connective methodology has the potential to render most current forms of communication technology obsolete. It will also make downloading and streaming media a much more viable choice for all forms of entertainment.

The only barrier may be the fiber optic infrastructure, which is less established than traditional copper wire networks. On the other hand, if the modulation technique can be adapted to work on the current infrastructure, there still may be significant improvements to current transmission rates.

Ironically, but not surprisingly, this was Sigbritts first computer. According to Jonsson, the hardest part of the whole demonstration was installing Windows on her new desktop.
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Weather HD DVD or Blue-ray wins the format battle has nothing to do with who has the better quality. The winner will be decided by the vast majority of people who have $39 DVD players from Walmart, who rent movies from Blockbuster on weekend to watch on their 27 inch TVs. They buy on price. When they decide to move up to HD they will buy the cheapest available. That is why VHS beat out Beta. I think that is why HD will win. Sony hasn’t learned from it’s mistakes.


I think the VHS vs. Beta battle is not very well comparable with Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD. The biggest difference being that back then the consumers chose their format in a situation when there weren't a preceding good format available. If you wanted to enter into the world of home videos, you had to choose the format or be totally out of it.

We can still wait simply because we have a good existing format, i.e. DVD.

For the same reason, I don't think those people who always buy the cheapest, will decide this battle. I believe the format war is over while those people (me, too, I suppose...) are still happily buying DVDs, and not giving a thought of moving to HD. I would think people who always want to have the cheapest players and who are watching their movies in cheapest TV-sets, are not in any hurry to invest on HD  They will "upconvert" when they have to, when they don't have their movies available in DVDs - and for cheap prices.

My 2c.

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Hollywoodinhighdef talked to Jerry Bruckheimer about well, hi-def

Bruckheimer: So many people think they know what High Definition is. But they really don’t. Most are unaware that the sources they’re using aren’t presenting their picture and sound in full HD. Once I saw my films in this format, I was blown away by what I’d been missing. The clarity and detail were so pristine it was as if I was back on the set during production.

You can read the whole thing here
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I have to agree with Draxen.  Until someone shows the average consumer that they must buy one of the HD formats, most will probably stick with DVD.  The 300 is a good example.  It was released in all 3 formats today.  Which format had all the 'goodies'?
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I have to agree with Draxen.  Until someone shows the average consumer that they must buy one of the HD formats, most will probably stick with DVD.  The 300 is a good example.  It was released in all 3 formats today.  Which format had all the 'goodies'?


I ordered the Steel Book edition from Futureshop in Canada. Having a friend ship it to me. Just waiting for it to arrive in my hands

I'll eventually buy the BR version, but I am in no hurry.
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I have to agree with Draxen.  Until someone shows the average consumer that they must buy one of the HD formats, most will probably stick with DVD.  The 300 is a good example.  It was released in all 3 formats today.  Which format had all the 'goodies'?


I ordered the Steel Book edition from Futureshop in Canada. Having a friend ship it to me. Just waiting for it to arrive in my hands

I'll eventually buy the BR version, but I am in no hurry.


I got the Best Buy Exclusive that came with the Spartan Helmet replica.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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