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Hey look, it's PACMAN!

Here ya go:

I know you think that chart means something between Blu-ray and HD DVD.  I will refer to this chart when HD DVD is basically dead and the chart looks about the same.  Does that sound fair?

Please hold your breath until that time ............

...Only if you let me hold your head underwater for that same length of time. 

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from Audioholics -

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/future-high-speed-internet.html


Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet


by David Waratuke — July 27, 2007
Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet

Fast Internet - Really Fast

Ever in danger of becoming irrelevant before they even really get started, high-definition DVD formats may have more to fear from Internet content downloading than previously believed.

       

According to the Associated Press and Swedish newspaper, ‘the Local’, a Swedish woman of 75 may have the fastest residential internet connection to date.

Swedish woman gets superfast internet

Sigbritt, 75, has world's fastest broadband

Sigbritt Lothberg of Karlstad, Sweden now has a 40Gbps internet connection thanks to her son, Peter Lothberg, networking guru and consultant to Cisco Systems, and Hfsteinn Jonsson, head of Karlstad Stadsnat, owner of the local network. The connection was intended as a demonstration of how to build high speed, low cost, long distance internet connections to get internet providers interested in developing and investing in the technology.

The technology is based on a fiber optic connection and a new modulation technique that allows high speed data transfer up to 2000 kilometers between routers with no intermediate transponders. The developers claim that distance is theoretically unlimited with no data loss.

The connection speed is fast enough that ‘the Local’ says Sigbritt could now watch 1500 HD television channels simultaneously or down load an entire HD movie in 2 seconds.

Now, assuming a VC-1 encoded movie on a dual layer HD-DVD, which holds 30GB, 40Gbps equals 5GBps, a full download of a maxed out disc would be roughly 6 seconds at the maximum transfer rate. Also using HD-DVD for a baseline comparison, raw data transfer is a maximum at 36.55Mbps, which would allow simultaneous transmission of 1094 channels at this throughput.

To give some perspective, the latest SATA hard drives operate at 3Gbps, accounting for coding overhead, about 2.4Gbps or 0.3 GBps and current internet providers, such as Comcast boast about 6Mbps so the same 30GB download would take 40,000 seconds, or slightly over 11 hours and 6 minutes at maximum throughput.

Bottom line is the transfer rate exceeds the ability of current hard disc technology to read/write the data. That's fast, and bound to open up new avenues for storage innovation.

If the technology is in fact as easy to implement and low cost as the developers claim, this connective methodology has the potential to render most current forms of communication technology obsolete. It will also make downloading and streaming media a much more viable choice for all forms of entertainment.

The only barrier may be the fiber optic infrastructure, which is less established than traditional copper wire networks. On the other hand, if the modulation technique can be adapted to work on the current infrastructure, there still may be significant improvements to current transmission rates.

Ironically, but not surprisingly, this was Sigbritts first computer. According to Jonsson, the hardest part of the whole demonstration was installing Windows on her new desktop.

What SOME people fail to understand is that the internet backbone is nowhere near that fast.  In other words, nothing can reach her at that speed because the backbone's top speed is an far less than OC-768 speeds (it's mostly around OC-192...10Gbps).  Not to mention that most people would need to have that speed available for that to work as a solution.  Also server speeds would need to spit out information that fast.

In other words, the  infrastructure is not there and won't be for a VERY long time.  Most people don't even have an 8Mbps connection and most servers do not output more than 10Mbps per connection.  Downloading the type of quality that is available via HD optical (1080p and lossless audio) is just nowhere near being ready for prime time and won't be for a long time.

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from Audioholics -

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/future-high-speed-internet.html


Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet


by David Waratuke — July 27, 2007
Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet

Fast Internet - Really Fast

Ever in danger of becoming irrelevant before they even really get started, high-definition DVD formats may have more to fear from Internet content downloading than previously believed.

       

According to the Associated Press and Swedish newspaper, ‘the Local’, a Swedish woman of 75 may have the fastest residential internet connection to date.

Swedish woman gets superfast internet

Sigbritt, 75, has world's fastest broadband

Sigbritt Lothberg of Karlstad, Sweden now has a 40Gbps internet connection thanks to her son, Peter Lothberg, networking guru and consultant to Cisco Systems, and Hfsteinn Jonsson, head of Karlstad Stadsnat, owner of the local network. The connection was intended as a demonstration of how to build high speed, low cost, long distance internet connections to get internet providers interested in developing and investing in the technology.

The technology is based on a fiber optic connection and a new modulation technique that allows high speed data transfer up to 2000 kilometers between routers with no intermediate transponders. The developers claim that distance is theoretically unlimited with no data loss.

The connection speed is fast enough that ‘the Local’ says Sigbritt could now watch 1500 HD television channels simultaneously or down load an entire HD movie in 2 seconds.

Now, assuming a VC-1 encoded movie on a dual layer HD-DVD, which holds 30GB, 40Gbps equals 5GBps, a full download of a maxed out disc would be roughly 6 seconds at the maximum transfer rate. Also using HD-DVD for a baseline comparison, raw data transfer is a maximum at 36.55Mbps, which would allow simultaneous transmission of 1094 channels at this throughput.

To give some perspective, the latest SATA hard drives operate at 3Gbps, accounting for coding overhead, about 2.4Gbps or 0.3 GBps and current internet providers, such as Comcast boast about 6Mbps so the same 30GB download would take 40,000 seconds, or slightly over 11 hours and 6 minutes at maximum throughput.

Bottom line is the transfer rate exceeds the ability of current hard disc technology to read/write the data. That's fast, and bound to open up new avenues for storage innovation.

If the technology is in fact as easy to implement and low cost as the developers claim, this connective methodology has the potential to render most current forms of communication technology obsolete. It will also make downloading and streaming media a much more viable choice for all forms of entertainment.

The only barrier may be the fiber optic infrastructure, which is less established than traditional copper wire networks. On the other hand, if the modulation technique can be adapted to work on the current infrastructure, there still may be significant improvements to current transmission rates.

Ironically, but not surprisingly, this was Sigbritts first computer. According to Jonsson, the hardest part of the whole demonstration was installing Windows on her new desktop.

What SOME people fail to understand is that the internet backbone is nowhere near that fast.  In other words, nothing can reach her at that speed because the backbone's top speed is an far less than OC-768 speeds (it's mostly around OC-192...10Gbps).  Not to mention that most people would need to have that speed available for that to work as a solution.  Also server speeds would need to spit out information that fast.

In other words, the  infrastructure is not there and won't be for a VERY long time.  Most people don't even have an 8Mbps connection and most servers do not output more than 10Mbps per connection.  Downloading the type of quality that is available via HD optical (1080p and lossless audio) is just nowhere near being ready for prime time and won't be for a long time.

So you are saying that Grandma Lothberg, her son and Audioholics are all liars? 

You are a joke

     

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from Audioholics -

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/future-high-speed-internet.html


Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet


by David Waratuke — July 27, 2007
Grandma Sees the Future of High-speed Internet

Fast Internet - Really Fast


In other words, the  infrastructure is not there and won't be for a VERY long time.  Most people don't even have an 8Mbps connection and most servers do not output more than 10Mbps per connection.  Downloading the type of quality that is available via HD optical (1080p and lossless audio) is just nowhere near being ready for prime time and won't be for a long time.

So you are saying that Grandma Lothberg, her son and Audioholics are all liars? 

You are a joke

     

Yep, I'm sure this is some publicity stunt. Just try downloading a CD or DVD ISO image. At current bandwith this will easy take an hour. Just upgrade all your endpoints to twice the bandwith they have today and I'm sure it will be desastrous for the backbone network. So downloading a HD movie in a matter of seconds, I think not!

I find Mr. Burns most amusing. 

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Hello. I clicked on this link by accident and just wanted to say: God, did you make me suffer for it. All you nicompoops bore me to death with your techno-babble and gobble-de-gook. And leave this nice young geek-man Ascended-Something alone. I was unfortunate enough to take a look at his shatteringly mindless dvd-collection and understand perfectly why he's so happy to make a complete new start with a new system and new dvds. And as for you, Ascended-Something, there is another new interesting format out now, called HD-DVD. Is that any good by any chance? Ah, well, ta-dah for now.

It's great to know that we share a lot more than a few titles in our collections.  It's great to know that we both have equally shatteringly mindless dvd collections!  So, when should we expect you to start with a new system and titles?

HD DVD is a very interest new format out now.  The interesting part is how quickly it's going from cradle-to-grave.   Ta-dah.

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HD DVD is a very interest new format out now.  The interesting part is how quickly it's going from cradle-to-grave.   Ta-dah.

Also available on October 30th is the Spider-Man™ High Definition Trilogy (MSRP: $98.95), a three-pack release of all three films on Blu-ray™ High-Def allowing fans an exclusive opportunity to collect both Spider-Man™ and Spider-Man™ 2 in high definition, along with Spider-Man™ 2.1 and Spider-Man™ 3.

Spider-Man™ 3 will also be available as a stand-alone two-disc release on Blu-ray™ High-Def.  (MSRP: $49.95)

The two-disc Spider-Man™ 3 Blu-ray™ High-Def and two-disc Special Edition DVD offer fans more than six hours of all-new bonus materials, including a trio of featurettes spotlighting the cinematic creation of the web crawler’s greatest nemeses.  Grains of Sand - Building Sandman details the challenges Sony Pictures Imageworks faced in creating the iconic villain; Re-Imagining the Goblin explores the changes in the New Goblin character from page to screen; and Covered in Black – Creating Venom follows the cinematic creation of Spider-Man’s archrival. The two-disc’s added value also has a trio of features on the creation of the spectacular stunts in the movie: Hanging On…Gwen Stacy & the Collapsing Floor, where stunt coordinator Scott Rogers explores the logistics of the dangerous stunt performed by Bryce Dallas Howard; Fighting, Flying & Driving – The Stunts, wherein Stunt Coordinator/2nd Unit Director Dan Bradley and Stunt Coordinator Scott Rogers provide a behind-the-scenes peek at the various “gags” in the film; and Wall of Water where the viewer is taken into the creation of one of the biggest stunts in the film.  In addition, the discs offer bloopers, a Snow Patrol music video, and two audio commentary tracks with cast and filmmakers.

Spider-Man™ 3 Two-Disc Blu-ray™ High-Def

Disc One Special Features:

Digitally Mastered Audio and Video
Audio: English Dolby True HD 5.1, English PCM 5.1 (Uncompressed), French, Spanish, Portuguese, Thai 5.1 (Dolby Digital)
Subtitles: English, English SDH, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Korean, Thai, Chinese Mandarin, Chinese Cantonese
Bloopers
Photo Galleries
Snow Patrol Music Video
Audio Commentary with Director Sam Raimi and Cast Members Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Thomas Haden Church, Topher Grace, and Bryce Dallas Howard
Audio Commentary with Producers Laura Ziskin, Avi Arad and Grant Curtis, Editor Bob Murawski and Special Effects Supervisor Scott Stokdyk
Closed Captioned
Bonus Previews

Disc Two Special Features:

·        Digitally Mastered Audio and Video
·        Audio: English, Spanish 5.1 (Dolby Digital). English, Spanish (Dolby Surround)
·        Subtitles: English, Spanish
·        Featurette:  Grains of Sand - Building Sandman
·        Featurette:  Re-Imagining the Goblin
·        Featurette:  Covered in Black – Creating Venom
·        Featurette:  Hanging On…Gwen Stacy and the Collapsing Floor
·        Featurette:  Fighting, Flying & Driving – The Stunts       
·        Featurette:  Tangled Web:  The Love Triangles of Spider-Man 3
·        Featurette:  Wall Of Water
·        Featurette:  On Location Cleveland – The Chase on Euclid Avenue
·        Featurette:  On Location New York –From Rooftops to Backstreets
·        Featurette: The Science of Sound
·        Featurette: Inside The Editing Room
·        Theatrical TV Spots From Around the World
·        Closed Captioned