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Again, you are wrong:



These are the Top 10 selling HD-format discs in the USA for the week ending 3/18/07.

Notice #8... Blu-ray X-Men-Last Stand. #8 selling disc at the time, with 899 discs sold.

#9... Blu-ray Fifth Element, 883 sold.

#10... Blu-ray Babel, 880 sold.

These are tiny, tiny, tiny numbers. These do not belong on mass media top 10 sellers lists.

Let's look at all HD-format disc sales since the inception of HD-DVD and Blu-ray:



Ok... HD-DVD & Blu-ray sales for January through March 2007 were a total of 1.2 million. Standard DVD sales for the same period was 54 million.

So, finally, HD disc sales are nearly 2% of DVD sales. THAT's what my PacMan chart means.

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You must be talking about the lowest selling discs and you must not be talking about total numbers for individual titles.  Then you would be correct about that number.

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While I agree, name a blockbuster from Universal in the last year?

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I'll wait it out.

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Quoting Mark Harrison:

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Don't worry Cliff.  I think most of us understood the Pac-Man chart and grasped the humor of what it represents.

With that said, I'm off to watch Flags of Our Fathers on HD-DVD.

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I am of a number of minds on the HD wars...

I have zero love or trust of Sony. They, like Apple, have repeatedly shown their contempt for their consumers by either pricing licensing far too high or eliminating other companies' R&D in their patents; and by placing a higher value on pricing their equipment high, while the competition undercuts their prices and because of more companies doing additional R&D, watching their competitors walk away (eventually) with the consumers' dollars. (Minus 1 for Blu-ray)

I guess you have more trust for Microsoft and Toshiba (that would be a very blind view of MS and Toshiba).  Maybe you think MS and Toshiba gives out hugs and kisses to consumers and businesses, but most know better.  MS has lost more court case and paid out more money for illegal business practices than any other company in recent history.  Toshiba has screwed businesses, including Sony (over the DVD disc structure), out of billions of dollars in royalties.  Sony is one of 3 major companies that owns patents on Blu-ray.  It is completely irrational to only place Sony's name with Blu-ray, especially, when Blu-ray was born from Panasonic.  Don't forget the fact that over 80% of the CE industry is in support of Blu-ray.  Plus, Blu-ray is a 5 step manufacturing process and HD DVD is a 11 step process.  Blu-ray has the potential to be a lot cheaper to produce than SD DVD in the future.  You just have to be able to see further than a couple months ahead when it comes to new formats.

The BDA is very logical because they understand that there has to be a balance that has to be met for a successful product.  The course they are following is the same as so many products before it.  Don't forget standalone VHS players were over $1000 (closer to $2000...imagine that with inflation included) when they made their debut.  Standalone DVD players were over $1000 when they made their debut.  DVD burners made their debut at well over $1000 and stayed at that price for a very long time.  Standalone Blu-ray players started out at over $1000, so what's the difference?  I can't recall any standalone player prices from other eras that dropped over 50% in price in a year.

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The street price on HD-DVD players seems to be dropping every week. Even if HD-DVD goes belly up, a smaller investment in HD-DVD format equipment makes it look more attractive at the moment, because Blu-ray is failing to use their higher capacity discs for anything at all. (Plus 1 HD-DVD)

Money wasted is money wasted.  HD DVD players will get down to $99 pretty soon (firesale).  People just don't want to be on a losing team...period.  That's why people are waiting for the format war to be over.  At this point in the format war, people that want HD movies but are still afraid to make a purchase just need even larger writing on the wall.  A good example would be when Universal goes neutral.  That day is when the format war will be over between Blu-ray and HD DVD.

Blu-ray is NOT failing to use their higher capacity discs.  They are making use of their higher bandwidth as well as the additional capacity (Blu-ray exclusive studios).  Any Blu-ray owner with a decent amount of titles knows your statement is not accurate.  Blu-ray already have complete HD discs (no 480 material on the disc).  They have more planned as well.  That is what HD discs should be able to do for all titles in the near future.  2 disc are suppose to be for additional contain above and beyond what would be on a 1 disc title (at it's native resolution).

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Quoting VibroCount:

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Quoting Mark Harrison:

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Don't worry Cliff.  I think most of us understood the Pac-Man chart and grasped the humor of what it represents.

With that said, I'm off to watch Flags of Our Fathers on HD-DVD.

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I am of a number of minds on the HD wars...

I have zero love or trust of Sony. They, like Apple, have repeatedly shown their contempt for their consumers by either pricing licensing far too high or eliminating other companies' R&D in their patents; and by placing a higher value on pricing their equipment high, while the competition undercuts their prices and because of more companies doing additional R&D, watching their competitors walk away (eventually) with the consumers' dollars. (Minus 1 for Blu-ray)

I guess you have more trust for Microsoft and Toshiba (that would be a very blind view of MS and Toshiba).  Maybe you think MS and Toshiba gives out hugs and kisses to consumers and businesses, but most know better.  MS has lost more court case and paid out more money for illegal business practices than any other company in recent history.  Toshiba has screwed businesses, including Sony (over the DVD disc structure), out of billions of dollars in royalties.  Sony is one of 3 major companies that owns patents on Blu-ray.  It is completely irrational to only place Sony's name with Blu-ray, especially, when Blu-ray was born from Panasonic.  Don't forget the fact that over 80% of the CE industry is in support of Blu-ray.  Plus, Blu-ray is a 5 step manufacturing process and HD DVD is a 11 step process.  Blu-ray has the potential to be a lot cheaper to produce than SD DVD in the future.  You just have to be able to see further than a couple months ahead when it comes to new formats.

The BDA is very logical because they understand that there has to be a balance that has to be met for a successful product.  The course they are following is the same as so many products before it.  Don't forget standalone VHS players were over $1000 (closer to $2000...imagine that with inflation included) when they made their debut.  Standalone DVD players were over $1000 when they made their debut.  DVD burners made their debut at well over $1000 and stayed at that price for a very long time.  Standalone Blu-ray players started out at over $1000, so what's the difference?  I can't recall any standalone player prices from other eras that dropped over 50% in price in a year.

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The street price on HD-DVD players seems to be dropping every week. Even if HD-DVD goes belly up, a smaller investment in HD-DVD format equipment makes it look more attractive at the moment, because Blu-ray is failing to use their higher capacity discs for anything at all. (Plus 1 HD-DVD)

Money wasted is money wasted.  HD DVD players will get down to $99 pretty soon (firesale).  People just don't want to be on a losing team...period.  That's why people are waiting for the format war to be over.  At this point in the format war, people that want HD movies but are still afraid to make a purchase just need even larger writing on the wall.  A good example would be when Universal goes neutral.  That day is when the format war will be over between Blu-ray and HD DVD.

Blu-ray is NOT failing to use their higher capacity discs.  They are making use of their higher bandwidth as well as the additional capacity (Blu-ray exclusive studios).  Any Blu-ray owner with a decent amount of titles knows your statement is not accurate.  Blu-ray already have complete HD discs (no 480 material on the disc).  They have more planned as well.  That is what HD discs should be able to do for all titles in the near future.  2 disc are suppose to be for additional contain above and beyond what would be on a 1 disc title (at it's native resolution).

What happened to the days when you were saying that Blu-ray had so much capicity that they only needed one disc for the feature and bonus materials. 

You also fail to understand that HD DVD can give as good as if not better picture quality than Blu-ray with their higher bandwidth.  HD DVD was able to do it without having to build a monster machine costing an arm and a leg. 

FYI...I am format neutral.  I have an HD DVD player and a Blu-ray player.

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People said similar things about DVD when VHS was the de facto format.

What people? Where do you get this drivel? Oh yeah, you make it up.