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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting pplchamp:
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Here's the story that Bill Hunt linked to today about the $100 and $50 million payoffs.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/
A_S already linked that article. As I said to him, I didn't see any facts in that article. I see the usual, "I'm told" and "Sources are telling me" crap that are the meat of tabloid journalism. I am sorry, but I prefer verifiable facts not inuendo presented as fact.  Then here are verifiable facts... 1. Blu-ray titles from Paramount/Dreamworks outsell HD DVD titles by 2:1 2. No business has EVER given up most of their business without some extreme compensation 3. Paramount research says that Blu-ray could win the HD format war in a few months if done correctly 4. Paramount/Dreamworks will sell most titles as HD DVD exclusives going forward for SOME REASON How does that, logically, add up to be anything other than a pay off? | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting pplchamp:
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Here's the story that Bill Hunt linked to today about the $100 and $50 million payoffs.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/
A_S already linked that article. As I said to him, I didn't see any facts in that article. I see the usual, "I'm told" and "Sources are telling me" crap that are the meat of tabloid journalism. I am sorry, but I prefer verifiable facts not inuendo presented as fact.
Then here are verifiable facts...
1. Blu-ray titles from Paramount/Dreamworks outsell HD DVD titles by 2:1
2. No business has EVER given up most of their business without some extreme compensation
3. Paramount research says that Blu-ray could win the HD format war in a few months if done correctly
4. Paramount/Dreamworks will sell most titles as HD DVD exclusives going forward for SOME REASON
How does that, logically, add up to be anything other than a pay off? Are you serious? Sorry, but those are statements, not facts. For them to be facts, you have to provide proof to back them up. You just did the same thing that was done in the article. Come on, you can do better than that.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
Quote:
Quoting pplchamp:
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Here's the story that Bill Hunt linked to today about the $100 and $50 million payoffs.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/
A_S already linked that article. As I said to him, I didn't see any facts in that article. I see the usual, "I'm told" and "Sources are telling me" crap that are the meat of tabloid journalism. I am sorry, but I prefer verifiable facts not inuendo presented as fact.
Then here are verifiable facts...
1. Blu-ray titles from Paramount/Dreamworks outsell HD DVD titles by 2:1
2. No business has EVER given up most of their business without some extreme compensation
3. Paramount research says that Blu-ray could win the HD format war in a few months if done correctly
4. Paramount/Dreamworks will sell most titles as HD DVD exclusives going forward for SOME REASON
How does that, logically, add up to be anything other than a pay off?
Are you serious? Sorry, but those are statements, not facts. For them to be facts, you have to provide proof to back them up. You just did the same thing that was done in the article. Come on, you can do better than that. WHAT?! Do you not know how to use Google? It is verifiable. YOU said that you prefer verifiable facts, then get to verifying. Otherwise, you were not truthful with your statement and everyone will know it. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 54 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
How does that, logically, add up to be anything other than a pay off? Ooh you forget Sony payed a lot more by buying some studios, but you probably forgot about that. So it's quite obvious that MS and Toshiba who don't own one or more studios try to cut a deal with studios. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting harry tasker: Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
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How does that, logically, add up to be anything other than a pay off?
Ooh you forget Sony payed a lot more by buying some studios, but you probably forgot about that.
So it's quite obvious that MS and Toshiba who don't own one or more studios try to cut a deal with studios. Last I looked, buying studios was not illegal. Neother was owning a studio or more than one studio. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | FOX AND MGM UNVEIL BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE RELEASES FOR 2007
29 Titles To Debut Packed With Soon-to-Be-Announced BD Industry ‘Firsts’ - PLUS – Fox’s First TV Title ‘PRISON BREAK’
FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER And LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD and Other Titles To Debut Day-and-Date on BD/DVD
-- Blu-ray Out-Performing HD DVD 2-to-1 At Retail in 2007 --
LOS ANGELES – August 20, 2007 -- Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment (TCFHE) today unveiled an aggressive global Blu-ray Disc release strategy including 29 new release and “must-have” catalog titles that runs through the end of the 2007 calendar year. Among the many highlights of the impressive worldwide slate are six day & date BD/DVD new theatrical releases from Fox including the $241 million box-office family favorite FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER and the $335 million box-office action powerhouse LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, four day & date BD/DVD (U.S. only) new theatrical releases from MGM, 19 ‘must-have on BD’ films from the two studios’ libraries, Fox’s first-ever TV release on BD – PRISON BREAK -- and Fox’s intention to release at least one state-of-the-art title per month featuring numerous BD ‘firsts.’
The only high-definition packaged media universally supported by the film, music, gaming and computer industries, BD is the #1 selling high-definition packaged media. In fact, on a worldwide basis, BD is averaging nearly 70% market-share per week of all high definition titles sold this year and, in the U.S., it is out-performing HD DVD by a margin of 115%.
“Given that Blu-ray has consistently outsold HD DVD all year, and this is the case for any titles released by any studio in both formats, we believe that the time is right for us to accelerate our activities and help convert the nearly 60 million high definition households worldwide into Blu-ray households,” noted Mike Dunn, President Worldwide, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. “By the end of this calendar year there will be expansive availability of technically vibrant releases featuring never-before-seen, advanced BD-J interactivity as well as a broad offering of playback devices at attractive prices that will prove to any doubting consumers once and for all that Blu-ray is the only way.”
“And as Blu-ray continues to grows stronger, it has become survival of the fittest which is most apparent in the retail landscape where our eager and growing global Blu-ray consumer base has caused a shift that is forcing the allocation of more space to the format that is selling the best. And, in many recent instances of note, top retailers in North America are choosing to promote the Blu-ray format exclusively in their stores,” continued Dunn.
Among the BD industry ‘firsts’ from the Studios’ upcoming global release slate are picture in picture capability, enhanced viewing and surround sound modes with the ability to mix and match picture and sound, direct access to in-movie features through one of the four colored buttons on the BD remote and the most technically vibrant BD-Java interactive multi-player challenge and trivia games to date. The Studios’ slate also takes full advantage of BD-Live functionality this fourth quarter. Internet-connected consumers will enjoy unique, title specific “web-enabled” interactive features and games and “web-exclusive” downloadable content with the ability to connect and interact with other broadband BD users worldwide.
Cementing its leadership position within the industry - previous BD releases NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM and X-MEN THE LAST STAND rank in the Top 20 best-sellers - the vast majority of the Studios’ upcoming global slate will be presented on 50 GB dual-layer discs with advanced BD-J interactivity and feature numerous Blu-ray exclusive high-definition bonus materials that further realizes BD’s incredible potential. Consumers will enjoy the superior video and audio elements of AVC encoding and Lossless HD audio on many of the coming titles as well as enhanced and integrated menus, personal scene selections, search indexing, trivia and other title specific games and high-definition bonus materials.
Upcoming BD-J features exclusive to priority catalogue titles from Fox and MGM include an "Alien Scavenger Hunt" (INDEPENDENCE DAY) that challenges players to earn points by identifying the correct number of aliens in select scenes to unlock additional bonus features; a “Global Warming Trivia Track” (THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW) where users must correctly answer questions about global warming to keep the Earth’s temperature from rising and being destroyed; and a historical and geographical pop-up map (MASTER & COMMANDER) that tracks the location of Captain "Lucky" Jack Aubrey and his enemies.
Listed below are the upcoming Blu-ray Disc releases from Fox and MGM excluding new theatrical day & date BD/DVD releases. EXACT TITLE CONFIGURATIONS TO FOLLOW IN THE COMING WEEKS.
Master and Commander - 10/2 (U.S. release) - October (International)
The Day After Tomorrow - 10/2 (U.S. release) - November (International)
From Hell - 10/9 (U.S. release) - October (International)
The Fly (1986) - 10/9 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
Edward Scissorhands - 10/9 (U.S. release) - November (International)
28 Days Later - 10/9 (U.S. release) - North America Only
RoboCop (MGM) - 10/9 (U.S. release) - December (International)
Amityville Horror (1979 - MGM) - 10/2 (U.S. release) - North America Only
Battle of Britain (MGM) - 11/6 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
A Bridge Too Far (MGM) - 11/6 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
I, Robot - 11/13 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
Die Hard - November (U.S. release) - November (International)
Die Hard 2: Die Harder - November (U.S. release) - November (International)
Die Hard with a Vengeance - November (U.S. release) - November (International)
Red Dawn (MGM) - November (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
Mr. and Mrs. Smith - 12/4 (U.S. release) - December (International)
Independence Day - 12/4 (U.S. release) - December (International)
Cast Away - 12/4 (U.S. release) - North America Only
Ronin (MGM) - 12/4 (U.S. release) - December (International) | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
|   | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting stefc: Quote:
BDA getting desperate now:
Fox Announcement today
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After months of silence, Fox Home Entertainment is planning to issue an announcement later today renewing its support for the Blu-ray format, and outlining the studio's upcoming release plans.
= "We're gonna release a movie some day, Honest!" Hehe, this one was pretty funny. The press release is almost as if someone dragged them out of bed, half awake. " Yeah, we're going to release 20-some titles! Good ones! "Must have!" (they actually used the latter phrase).  As an owner of both formats it's nice to see them throwing us a few titles even if a 'bomb' had to go off to cause this. - - - Quote:
“must-have” catalog titles And there it is.  | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | All that is missing is a press release from Sony and Disney  | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | |  You guys aren't ever going to agree so why argue?PS: That's my cat | | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
| | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
All that is missing is a press release from Sony and Disney Yes, expect those within a day or two. And Sony, just one English lossless track per disc if you don't mind, PCM and TrueHD on the same disc is called "redundancy" and eats up space that could be used for those things called "extras."  Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
You guys aren't ever going to agree so why argue?
PS: That's my cat High-def cat, think I can spot some teeth problems.  Oh, I'd say this announcement assured many more years of arguing... good times. | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
FOX AND MGM UNVEIL BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE RELEASES FOR 2007
29 Titles To Debut Packed With Soon-to-Be-Announced BD Industry ‘Firsts’ - PLUS – Fox’s First TV Title ‘PRISON BREAK’
FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER And LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD and Other Titles To Debut Day-and-Date on BD/DVD
-- Blu-ray Out-Performing HD DVD 2-to-1 At Retail in 2007 --
LOS ANGELES – August 20, 2007 -- Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment (TCFHE) today unveiled an aggressive global Blu-ray Disc release strategy including 29 new release and “must-have” catalog titles that runs through the end of the 2007 calendar year. Among the many highlights of the impressive worldwide slate are six day & date BD/DVD new theatrical releases from Fox including the $241 million box-office family favorite FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER and the $335 million box-office action powerhouse LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, four day & date BD/DVD (U.S. only) new theatrical releases from MGM, 19 ‘must-have on BD’ films from the two studios’ libraries, Fox’s first-ever TV release on BD – PRISON BREAK -- and Fox’s intention to release at least one state-of-the-art title per month featuring numerous BD ‘firsts.’
The only high-definition packaged media universally supported by the film, music, gaming and computer industries, BD is the #1 selling high-definition packaged media. In fact, on a worldwide basis, BD is averaging nearly 70% market-share per week of all high definition titles sold this year and, in the U.S., it is out-performing HD DVD by a margin of 115%.
“Given that Blu-ray has consistently outsold HD DVD all year, and this is the case for any titles released by any studio in both formats, we believe that the time is right for us to accelerate our activities and help convert the nearly 60 million high definition households worldwide into Blu-ray households,” noted Mike Dunn, President Worldwide, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. “By the end of this calendar year there will be expansive availability of technically vibrant releases featuring never-before-seen, advanced BD-J interactivity as well as a broad offering of playback devices at attractive prices that will prove to any doubting consumers once and for all that Blu-ray is the only way.”
“And as Blu-ray continues to grows stronger, it has become survival of the fittest which is most apparent in the retail landscape where our eager and growing global Blu-ray consumer base has caused a shift that is forcing the allocation of more space to the format that is selling the best. And, in many recent instances of note, top retailers in North America are choosing to promote the Blu-ray format exclusively in their stores,” continued Dunn.
Among the BD industry ‘firsts’ from the Studios’ upcoming global release slate are picture in picture capability, enhanced viewing and surround sound modes with the ability to mix and match picture and sound, direct access to in-movie features through one of the four colored buttons on the BD remote and the most technically vibrant BD-Java interactive multi-player challenge and trivia games to date. The Studios’ slate also takes full advantage of BD-Live functionality this fourth quarter. Internet-connected consumers will enjoy unique, title specific “web-enabled” interactive features and games and “web-exclusive” downloadable content with the ability to connect and interact with other broadband BD users worldwide.
Cementing its leadership position within the industry - previous BD releases NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM and X-MEN THE LAST STAND rank in the Top 20 best-sellers - the vast majority of the Studios’ upcoming global slate will be presented on 50 GB dual-layer discs with advanced BD-J interactivity and feature numerous Blu-ray exclusive high-definition bonus materials that further realizes BD’s incredible potential. Consumers will enjoy the superior video and audio elements of AVC encoding and Lossless HD audio on many of the coming titles as well as enhanced and integrated menus, personal scene selections, search indexing, trivia and other title specific games and high-definition bonus materials.
Upcoming BD-J features exclusive to priority catalogue titles from Fox and MGM include an "Alien Scavenger Hunt" (INDEPENDENCE DAY) that challenges players to earn points by identifying the correct number of aliens in select scenes to unlock additional bonus features; a “Global Warming Trivia Track” (THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW) where users must correctly answer questions about global warming to keep the Earth’s temperature from rising and being destroyed; and a historical and geographical pop-up map (MASTER & COMMANDER) that tracks the location of Captain "Lucky" Jack Aubrey and his enemies.
Listed below are the upcoming Blu-ray Disc releases from Fox and MGM excluding new theatrical day & date BD/DVD releases. EXACT TITLE CONFIGURATIONS TO FOLLOW IN THE COMING WEEKS.
Master and Commander - 10/2 (U.S. release) - October (International)
The Day After Tomorrow - 10/2 (U.S. release) - November (International)
From Hell - 10/9 (U.S. release) - October (International)
The Fly (1986) - 10/9 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
Edward Scissorhands - 10/9 (U.S. release) - November (International)
28 Days Later - 10/9 (U.S. release) - North America Only
RoboCop (MGM) - 10/9 (U.S. release) - December (International)
Amityville Horror (1979 - MGM) - 10/2 (U.S. release) - North America Only
Battle of Britain (MGM) - 11/6 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
A Bridge Too Far (MGM) - 11/6 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
I, Robot - 11/13 (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
Die Hard - November (U.S. release) - November (International)
Die Hard 2: Die Harder - November (U.S. release) - November (International)
Die Hard with a Vengeance - November (U.S. release) - November (International)
Red Dawn (MGM) - November (U.S. release) - Q1 2008 (International)
Mr. and Mrs. Smith - 12/4 (U.S. release) - December (International)
Independence Day - 12/4 (U.S. release) - December (International)
Cast Away - 12/4 (U.S. release) - North America Only
Ronin (MGM) - 12/4 (U.S. release) - December (International) Fighting fire with fire. The BDA had to release this press announcement before they really wanted to. I just looked through my DVD collection to see what I might be losing with Paramount (besides the upcoming Shrek 3 release). Since Transformers has Spielberg's name on it, this should be on Blu-ray. I'm not losing but a few favorites of mine (and they might not even be a part of the HD DVD exclusive catalog deal with Paramount). That's good. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | This about sums up the earlier Paramount announcement.  I want to see if this announcement stands up to anti-trust investigations (especially in Europe). | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33722 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
This about sums up the earlier Paramount announcement.
I want to see if this announcement stands up to anti-trust investigations (especially in Europe). Anything you say brown eyes. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hey guys, can you quit quoting the ENTIRE long post only to add a sentence or two? You're taking up space that could be used for DVD profiles. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting pplchamp:
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Here's the story that Bill Hunt linked to today about the $100 and $50 million payoffs.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/
A_S already linked that article. As I said to him, I didn't see any facts in that article. I see the usual, "I'm told" and "Sources are telling me" crap that are the meat of tabloid journalism. I am sorry, but I prefer verifiable facts not inuendo presented as fact.
Then here are verifiable facts...
1. Blu-ray titles from Paramount/Dreamworks outsell HD DVD titles by 2:1
2. No business has EVER given up most of their business without some extreme compensation
3. Paramount research says that Blu-ray could win the HD format war in a few months if done correctly
4. Paramount/Dreamworks will sell most titles as HD DVD exclusives going forward for SOME REASON
How does that, logically, add up to be anything other than a pay off?
Are you serious? Sorry, but those are statements, not facts. For them to be facts, you have to provide proof to back them up. You just did the same thing that was done in the article. Come on, you can do better than that.
WHAT?! Do you not know how to use Google? It is verifiable. YOU said that you prefer verifiable facts, then get to verifying. Otherwise, you were not truthful with your statement and everyone will know it. Let us put this in context, since you are implying that I am a liar. My statement about wanting facts was aimed at a printed article by a 'journalist'. For me to give an article any consideration, it must provide facts, not just unsubstantiated claims. It is not my job to verify the claims made in an article, it is their job. If they can't do that, then they aren't worth considering. It was in that context that I made my statement about wanting verifiable facts. You countered that by making the same type of unsubstantiated statements as those that were made in the article. Sorry, but they aren't facts unless you provide some sort of proof to back them up. It is not my job to verify your claims. They were your statements, which makes it your job. If you can't back them up, then they aren't worth considering. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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