I am the initial contributor and this will be my statement for the contribution of this box set.

First to say, we have a box set here. A complete box set. This box is containing nine different seasons of this tv-show, all seperated in 9 blue amaray-cases with seperated covers. Each season contains up to six discs, which contain the episodes. Looks exactly like this:



It is only logical, that we contribute this in the following order:

1. The box set (with ean 4010232067739) as main profile and then for all the nine different seasons, we contribute as I did, with the disc 1 as disc-ID for each season, because the contained season has no ean-code.
2. So, the seasons can be contributed. This makes 9 child profiles for the box set overall, which is absolutely okay in my opinion. And I really don't know, why this makes up a discussion over 6 pages?
3. Than, we MAY contribute for each of these nine seasons the discs. This CAN BE done. And as we see, some people want that. That's okay for them, but not okay for me.

I do not want to have data for each disc I own. Thats complete crazy. I own over 2.500 editions. Editions. NOT discs! My database would be so big, that we urgently need a subdivision. Especially in this case. 52 discs, come on!

What that means:
box set -> season -> episode-discs.

I think thats the best way. Everyone can choose whatever he wants. Some just want to have the box set in his database, thats okay, lock the child profiles.
Some just want the box set and the containing seasons. Thats also okay (and my favourite option). Just lock the box set contents for each season.
And finally there are some people who want every single disc. Thats also okay, they can download every data, they want and need from the invelos database.

I really don't know why this is so hard to understand?

All would be happy with that solution, because everyone could have the data which he want.

Or did I make a thinking mistake?

As T!M said... at this time the way you WANT it is against the current rules. So like it or not... your contributions and votes are against the rules.

When we were writing the rules  we attempted to do it similar to how you are asking but wasn't enough agreement and Ken decided against it. So now the season sets (within the main box set) must have it's own UPC/EAN to create them for the online database.

That being said... as always you are welcome to do it however you like locally... but you can't contribute it to the online.

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Or did I make a thinking mistake?

The mistake is that you're explaining how you'd *like* to see this set handled. We all understand what you're saying, why you feel it's the best way - really we do. The problem is that the current rules don't allow it that way. It's as simple as that.

If you don't like this particular rule, then by all means, campaign to get it changed. But your contributions and votes should not violate the current rules.

I agree. That first point is against the Rules laid down by the creators of the program. It is clearly stated that if the Season cases have no EAN then they have to be entered by Disc ID only. One Disc ID for each disc.

"1. The box set (with ean 4010232067739) as main profile and then for all the nine different seasons, we contribute as I did, with the disc 1 as disc-ID for each season, because the contained season has no ean-code."

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Or did I make a thinking mistake?

The mistake is that you're explaining how you'd *like* to see this set handled. We all understand what you're saying, why you feel it's the best way - really we do. The problem is that the current rules don't allow it that way. It's as simple as that.

If you don't like this particular rule, then by all means, campaign to get it changed. But your contributions and votes should not violate the current rules.

I agree. That first point is against the Rules laid down by the creators of the program. It is clearly stated that if the Season cases have no EAN then they have to be entered by Disc ID only. One Disc ID for each disc.

"1. The box set (with ean 4010232067739) as main profile and then for all the nine different seasons, we contribute as I did, with the disc 1 as disc-ID for each season, because the contained season has no ean-code."

On what I put in bold... where do see anywhere in the rules that you can use the disc ID from disc 1 for a season? This is not allowed per the rules...or the only thing Ken ever said on this subject. It would be the parent profile by upc (Complete Series profile) with each disc as child profiles. no season profiles unless the season has it's own upc (within the complete series set).

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Or did I make a thinking mistake?

The mistake is that you're explaining how you'd *like* to see this set handled. We all understand what you're saying, why you feel it's the best way - really we do. The problem is that the current rules don't allow it that way. It's as simple as that.

If you don't like this particular rule, then by all means, campaign to get it changed. But your contributions and votes should not violate the current rules.

I agree. That first point is against the Rules laid down by the creators of the program. It is clearly stated that if the Season cases have no EAN then they have to be entered by Disc ID only. One Disc ID for each disc.

"1. The box set (with ean 4010232067739) as main profile and then for all the nine different seasons, we contribute as I did, with the disc 1 as disc-ID for each season, because the contained season has no ean-code."

On what I put in bold... where do see anywhere in the rules that you can use the disc ID from disc 1 for a season? This is not allowed per the rules...or the only thing Ken ever said on this subject. It would be the parent profile by upc (Complete Series profile) with each disc as child profiles. no season profiles unless the season has it's own upc (within the complete series set).

Yes it is stated in the rules:

http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=whattocontribute

"(...)If a title does not have a UPC, then add the title by Disc ID, using your DVD-ROM drive."

And this has no EAN per season, right?

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Or did I make a thinking mistake?

The mistake is that you're explaining how you'd *like* to see this set handled. We all understand what you're saying, why you feel it's the best way - really we do. The problem is that the current rules don't allow it that way. It's as simple as that.

If you don't like this particular rule, then by all means, campaign to get it changed. But your contributions and votes should not violate the current rules.

I agree. That first point is against the Rules laid down by the creators of the program. It is clearly stated that if the Season cases have no EAN then they have to be entered by Disc ID only. One Disc ID for each disc.

"1. The box set (with ean 4010232067739) as main profile and then for all the nine different seasons, we contribute as I did, with the disc 1 as disc-ID for each season, because the contained season has no ean-code."

On what I put in bold... where do see anywhere in the rules that you can use the disc ID from disc 1 for a season? This is not allowed per the rules...or the only thing Ken ever said on this subject. It would be the parent profile by upc (Complete Series profile) with each disc as child profiles. no season profiles unless the season has it's own upc (within the complete series set).

Yes it is stated in the rules:

http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=whattocontribute

"(...)If a title does not have a UPC, then add the title by Disc ID, using your DVD-ROM drive."

And this has no EAN per season, right?

Wrong... that is for a release without a UPC... the release (Complete series set) has a UPC. You are trying to break up a release into smaller parts. What you are quoting is for things that the release itself (entire thing) has no UPC. For example the box set that came with a magazine subscription years back. Got a box of classic movies for free... never had a UPC. That is what that is talking about. Not talking about breaking up a release into smaller pieces.