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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *gasp* OOOOOOOO |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | In a note to retailers, Paramount has officially canceled all previously-announced upcoming Blu-ray releases.
As expected, Paramount won't release a single of its previously-announced upcoming Blu-ray titles, including 'Blades of Glory,' 'Next,' 'Top Gun,' 'The Jack Ryan Collection' and 'Face/Off.' Instead, each of the titles will now be HD DVD exclusive.
Retailers received official word late Monday that all five Blu-ray titles would be cancelled, and that existing orders would not be fulfilled.
EDIT: Well, I just saved somee hard earned money. I had The Jack Ryan Collection and Top Gun pre-ordered. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... | | | | Last edited: by NewEnglander |
| | Registered: March 28, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Erik: Quote:
"From today's My 2 Cents, at Digitial Bits: Bill Hunt can't still say this, can he?"
"He absolutely should not. To expand, he sent email asking how much money was paid to Paramount after his first blog! That is the email that I answered.
If he does not retract that misinformation, I am tempted to post my answer word for word for the world to see.
What is funny is that he goes to stipulate that we don't have a reason to spend that kind of money on HD DVD. Yet he thinks it is true because someone told him it was, [someone] who has no clue about this situation." Where is that from? I'm curious to read more. KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS!
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|   | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
"I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!" Bay wrote in a forum posting on his "Shoot for the Edit" Web site. Michael "I shoot sexy stuff" Bay is certainly known for screaming and whining on his sets, so 'tis no surprise that this is carried over to the internet.  As people are quick to point out, though: "Well Mr. Bay, get Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys 1 & 2, The Rock, The Island and Armageddeon off what will be "Blu Only" and spread the love and you might have a leg to stand on. It works both ways buddy!"Quoting Astrakan: Quote:
Where is that from? I'm curious to read more. The AVS Forum mentioned by Mark. A little crazy there at the moment, but look for the "Industry Insiders Q&A thread." | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Erik: Quote:
Quoting Astrakan:
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Bill Hunt used to be a great champion of home theater enthusiasts. Note the use of past tense. These days it appears he's turned into a frothing-at-the-mouth fanboy. [...]
But the way he was carrying on when this news broke, spewing what amounts to speculations at best and outright lies at worst, and basically throwing a giant tantrum... well, it's pretty disappointing and very unprofessional.
Later in the day I guess he decided to tone it down a bit.
Had to tone it down is more accurate. Bill Hunt's a tool, notorious among fellow DVD folks since the "early days."
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"From today's My 2 Cents, at Digitial Bits: Bill Hunt can't still say this, can he?"
"He absolutely should not. To expand, he sent email asking how much money was paid to Paramount after his first blog! That is the email that I answered.
If he does not retract that misinformation, I am tempted to post my answer word for word for the world to see.
What is funny is that he goes to stipulate that we don't have a reason to spend that kind of money on HD DVD. Yet he thinks it is true because someone told him it was, [someone] who has no clue about this situation." Funny how Bill Hunt was sooo great and couldn't be wrong at any point until he stopped riding the HD DVD train. Then he magically became a bastard. Some people...  | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Erik: Quote:
Quoting Astrakan:
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Where is that from? I'm curious to read more.
The AVS Forum mentioned by Mark. A little crazy there at the moment, but look for the "Industry Insiders Q&A thread." You can find the thread here. Go to the last several pages and search for posts by "amirm". He's stated very clearly that Microsoft hasn't paid a cent. Although they will offer to help with VC-1 encoding. But they offer help to anyone who asks for it. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
Amir (who has posted here in the past and is a Microsoft VP) has stated multiple times over at AVSForum that Microsoft has not paid a single cent to Paramount/Dreamworks. Nor have they provided any form of compensation.
This bit about Microsoft paying $150 million is pure rubbish. It sounds like $150 million was paid, but not by Microsoft. There's no reason to keep spreading this false rumor. Quick question... Technically, if a company gives a person or group $150 million to pay for something (for them). Who's name shows up on the bill? The company's name? Or the person or group that paid Company B? Now in that case, indirectly, who paid for it? Welcome to the corporate world! | | | To err is human...
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| | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Funny how Bill Hunt was sooo great and couldn't be wrong at any point until he stopped riding the HD DVD train. Then he magically became a bastard. Some people... I've never, anywhere, said that he was "great," note the 'early days' jab. Pay attention. In an attempt at some "neutral" stuff here, I'm awaiting my copy of The Crow on BD -- anyone pick it up yet among the UK folks? | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Quoting Mark Harrison:
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Amir (who has posted here in the past and is a Microsoft VP) has stated multiple times over at AVSForum that Microsoft has not paid a single cent to Paramount/Dreamworks. Nor have they provided any form of compensation.
This bit about Microsoft paying $150 million is pure rubbish. It sounds like $150 million was paid, but not by Microsoft. There's no reason to keep spreading this false rumor.
Quick question...
Quick reminder... I have no interest in having further discussion with you. I know I've mentioned this in the past, but it's been a while. And it has nothing to do with being an HD-DVD zelot. I was extremely close to getting a PS3 over the weekend and have no problem going neutral. And given the recent news, I expect I will before the years out. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's something that might be interesting... Quote:
Josh,
Thank you for your email. I will answer your questions as best I can.
1 - As far as we can tell here in marketing, this exclusive deal could last as long as 18 months. I spoke to my director earlier today and even she does not have all the details of this agreement. She did mention we have a lot of clauses which would allow us to release certain films on Blu-ray during this time period.
2 - I cannot comment on this question.
3 - Right now it looks like all announced Blu-ray titles will be or have been canceled. As I mentioned before you still may see some Blu-ray releases in the next 18 months though. I can not get in to the details of that possibility though.
4 - Actually we were as surprised as everyone else today when we found out about agreement with HD-DVD. We found out when we arrived to work today and there had been no rumors at all circulating. I think it surprised us all because we have been working on producing and marketing Blu-ray versions of films such Blades, Face/Off, Top Gun, etc. through the end of last week. I can tell you we have received many calls today from various talent and certain directors voicing their displeasure with this decision. We even had VP's of other studios calling in from what I hear. I have never seen this type of atmosphere in the office. In a way we were on damage control throughout the day. That is really all I can tell you for now.
Take care Josh!
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From: Joshua XXXXX <contact@hidefpreview.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:40:49 -0700 (PDT)
To: <xxxxxx_xxxxxxx@paramount.com>
Subject: HD-DVD These were the questions... Quote:
I have a couple of questions regarding you guys going HD-DVD exclusive today. As you can imagine it was a big surprise to many of us.
1. Is this exclusivity indefinite or for a limited time frame?
2. The rumor circulating AVS is that Microsoft has contributed money to Paramount to go exclusive. Is this true?
3. Will certain announced movies still be released on Blu-ray? What about Transformers & Indiana Jones?
4. How long have you or your department known that this deal was being negotiated?
Thanks!
~Josh There was something I noticed about the amount of Paramount releases. It's been about a year and a half and Paramount has released under 35 titles (if I remember correctly). Basically, the 18 month contract is for about maybe 40 movies or so. On the other hand, Fox just announced 29 titles for the 3rd quarter alone. When Paramount comes back, I'll be ready to purchase some of those titles that were HD DVD exclusive during that period. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Here's something that might be interesting... It might be interesting if it was verifiable. For all we know it is a fabricated document. But thanks for sharing these facts. Quote:
There was something I noticed about the amount of Paramount releases. It's been about a year and a half and Paramount has released under 35 titles (if I remember correctly). Basically, the 18 month contract is for about maybe 40 movies or so. That is a huge assumption. I mean, if I were going to spend $150 million I would expect more than 40 releases.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
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Here's something that might be interesting...
It might be interesting if it was verifiable. For all we know it is a fabricated document. But thanks for sharing these facts. Yeah, hate to sound paranoid, but studio e-mail drones tend to speak like computers and be very, very vague. Not go into details about "damage control" and "various talent and certain directors voicing their displeasure." But hey, it could be a "source" higher up in the foodchain... The last statement is certainly amusing, and I have one just as unverified. "Most of my filmmaker friends, in fact all of them that I have had a conversation regarding this with... have told me... HD DVD is the format to go with." | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 418 |
| | Posted: | | | | Every company seems to write off HD for Blu-ray I am glad to see some one is ready to fight Sony. After all the crap Sony have done with rootkits etc. Sony should not be trusted at all cost. | | | | Last edited: by Randall_Lind |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
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Here's something that might be interesting...
It might be interesting if it was verifiable. For all we know it is a fabricated document. But thanks for sharing these facts.
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There was something I noticed about the amount of Paramount releases. It's been about a year and a half and Paramount has released under 35 titles (if I remember correctly). Basically, the 18 month contract is for about maybe 40 movies or so.
That is a huge assumption. I mean, if I were going to spend $150 million I would expect more than 40 releases. I guess "interesting" means verifiable facts to you...oh well. One way to find out if it's a fabricated document. PM Josh (AVS Insider) and ask him for the complete email address and phone number. Then you can call or email and find out who's on the other end. The less than 40 releases were based on the last 18 months or so. And, yes, that is alot of money for that amount of titles. Remember, there is no evidence to say Paramount will try to speed up production (especially when it takes longer to master great PQ on HD DVDs due to the lesser bandwidth).  | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Randall_Lind: Quote:
Every company seems to write off HD for Blu-ray I am glad to see some one is ready to fight Sony. After all the crap Sony have done with rootkits etc. Sony should not be trusted at all cost. Don't fool yourself into thinking it was anything other than the money. Blu-ray gave Paramount twice the sales, 66% more space, and more than 30% more bandwidth. You know it was for the money. As far as rootkits are concerned, you should even start to type Sony's name before you type Microsoft 20 times. You should know better than that. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
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Here's something that might be interesting...
It might be interesting if it was verifiable. For all we know it is a fabricated document. But thanks for sharing these facts.
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There was something I noticed about the amount of Paramount releases. It's been about a year and a half and Paramount has released under 35 titles (if I remember correctly). Basically, the 18 month contract is for about maybe 40 movies or so.
That is a huge assumption. I mean, if I were going to spend $150 million I would expect more than 40 releases.
I guess "interesting" means verifiable facts to you...oh well. One way to find out if it's a fabricated document. PM Josh (AVS Insider) and ask him for the complete email address and phone number. Then you can call or email and find out who's on the other end. Yes, that is exactly what it means to me. Otherwise, I might as well read the National Enquirer'. Their stories are filled with information from anonymous sources. Quote:
The less than 40 releases were based on the last 18 months or so. And, yes, that is alot of money for that amount of titles. Remember, there is no evidence to say Paramount will try to speed up production (especially when it takes longer to master great PQ on HD DVDs due to the lesser bandwidth). just like there is no evidence to say that MS payed out $150 million for exclusivity. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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