Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:

Quote:
Quoting pplchamp:

Quote:
Cliff...

No one cares about DVD compared to Hidef. It's apples and oranges..

I think you have that backwards...nobody cares how many HD discs have been sold as it isn't even a drop in the home entertainment bucket.  Neither side has convinced Joe Public that they need HD.  Until they do, it is a niche market at best.

No one SHOULD care about DVD's performance 10 years in it's lifecycle when compared to 14 - 17 months into HD's performance.  I see time means nothing to some.  The INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to compare HD's performance so far to DVD's performance 14 - 17 months in it's lifecycle.

It doesn't get much more simple than that.

It's a good thing that statement was JUST an opinion piece. 

The comparison would only be valid if there was a format war between DVD and something else.  I don't believe there was.  You are spouting numbers about how Blu-ray is beating the crap out of HD DVD.  Looking at the big picture, they are meaningless numbers.

Quoting Unicus69:

Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:

Quote:
Quoting pplchamp:

Quote:
Cliff...

No one cares about DVD compared to Hidef. It's apples and oranges..

I think you have that backwards...nobody cares how many HD discs have been sold as it isn't even a drop in the home entertainment bucket.  Neither side has convinced Joe Public that they need HD.  Until they do, it is a niche market at best.

No one SHOULD care about DVD's performance 10 years in it's lifecycle when compared to 14 - 17 months into HD's performance.  I see time means nothing to some.  The INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to compare HD's performance so far to DVD's performance 14 - 17 months in it's lifecycle.

It doesn't get much more simple than that.

It's a good thing that statement was JUST an opinion piece. 

The comparison would only be valid if there was a format war between DVD and something else.  I don't believe there was.  You are spouting numbers about how Blu-ray is beating the crap out of HD DVD.  Looking at the big picture, they are meaningless numbers.

What is your definition of "the big picture" it this case?  Would that be DVD's numbers after a decade of being around?

My post above on this subject stands.

Quoting graymadder:

Quote:
Quoting pplchamp:

Quote:
Quoting graymadder:

Quote:
Lucas and Spielberg have not chosen a format to release on. It will be interesting to see how that will affect the formats. I mean Star Wars was just released 3 years ago. Who knows how long he will wait before he release it on HiDef.

That's why Spielberg has let Sony release Close Encounters of the Third Kind on blu-ray, right? That is why he also supervised the work done on the project, right? That is why Paramount was not allowed to have his movies in their exclusive HD DVD deal, right? That is why Universal had to apolgize to him and remove all mentions of his movies from HD DVD propaganda, right?

Okay, if you say so.

(NoteL This post had nothing to do with Lucas)

Lighten up, Francis.

Isn't CEtK a Columbia (Sony) Picture as well as Hook? Yes. WB has a couple two. Which IS the reason for my post. He has the majority of his films with Universal and Paramount. Regardless of what was printed from Universal/Paramount etc, none (well almost none) of his flims has been anounced of when and if they will be released in HD.  He held out for  awhile before he began releasing his films onto DVD as well. So why would HD be any different? Hence the reason for the post.

Just because he had his films removed from the deal doen't mean sh*t. All it says is that he retains the right of when they will be released. Regardless of which format they are on. Please don't read into and manipulate the words spoken by others.

You are way out of line and the reason for you attack on my post is unfounded and frankly retarded. Just because you picked a side doesn't make you an authority of all things HD.

Did you really use the word propaganda in your post to belittle HD-DVD? Well depending on the use of the word this can be a compliment, so before I continue to assume that you are implying the negative connotation of the word propaganda I will look a the positive.

This thread is becoming almost a pure waste. People are so biased and full of themselves that they think they are the end all be all. Rather than posting something that would stimulate a positive and intellectual discussion, thread, they would rather spout off words that causes arguments and making it personal.




"The most effective propaganda is often completely truthful."*


*Wikipedia.org

graymadder, your statement about Spielberg and Lucas not choosing a format to release their films on is clearly half right (Lucas) and half wrong (Spielberg).  Maybe you just didn't phrase your statement the way you really wanted to or whatever. 

The point being that Spielberg HAS supervised and ALLOWED the announcement that HIS title is to be released as a Blu-ray EXCLUSIVE.  Spielberg has NOT done this for ANY HD DVD exclusive studio despite titles being announced and retracted 9 MONTHS AGO (by Universal).  Does this mean something in the short-term for Blu-ray?  Absolutely.  Can this mean something in the long term?  Absolutely.  Does this definitely mean something in the long-term for Blu-ray?  Of course, not.  But, as of right now, Spielberg IS supporting the Blu-ray format ONLY.

pplchamp, I think your words may have been a little harsh towards graymadder.  graymadder tries to look at thinks as they are.  He just isn't as familiar with the recent events in the format war (or maybe not to that level of detail).

Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

Quote:
I don't think you will do that, because the number of Warner titles listed were...0.  To answer your last question...I don't think EVERYONE in this forum is retarded.

Try again liar. The number is definately NOT 0. (hint...check Oct 23...do it fast before the ASC edits his post.) He will pobably claim it was an oversight, but we all know the ASC tries to get away with everything he can to pursue his fanboy wannabe agenda.

Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

Quote:
You would probably consider them to be crazy.  That's the equivalent of what you are doing.

wow....will the desperation tactics never end? I feel bad for you that you are so obsessed that you must spam this (and apparently many other) board(s) at every opportunity.

I am asking again, when are you going to contribute to this community and program in a meaningful way and stop all the spamming?

serious hair pulling? 



can't edit posts after someone else posts? i think not (see below for explanation)

Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

Quote:
You are the liar.  Everyone knows you can not edit your post here once someone else posts (unless something recently changed).  I didn't even edit that post. Page 85.

Now, all you've done is proven yourself to be a liar of the worst form.  Your lie was meant to manipulate people. 

You silly twit, 

I am not talking about your yammering, I am talking about the fact that you CLAIM not to have listed any warner titles in your blu ray 4th quarter release list. THAT is a lie, there are indeed warner titles there, and not in the HD DVD list. And I never said that you DID edit a post, just that you could.

now apologize to me for calling me a liar....as you can see, I haven't and you have.

Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

Quote:
October 23, 2007
* The Company (2007) (Sony)
* Eyes Wide Shut (Warner)
* The Hills Have Eyes 2 (2007) (Fox)
* Home of the Brave (Fox)
* Hostel (Sony)
* Hostel: Part II (Sony)
* King of New York (Lionsgate)
* Meet the Robinsons (Walt Disney)
* Mr. Brooks (MGM)
* Scary Movie (Dimension)
* The Sopranos: Season Six, Part Two (Warner)

There ya go Bob.  I think that is what you were refering to.