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I've contributed dozens of box set of the last year or so as I've been bringing my collection in to the DVDP database. This situation is really not all that uncommon. If you go in to "Change UPC/Locality" you'll be able to create new alternates there.
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Not ideal, but the one title I have that uses a 13 digit bar code I added via disk ID.
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DVD Profiler used to support longer bar codes, but that was changed some years ago.
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For me, a digipak would more like a fold-out where a digibook opens up on a spine. I always think of music CDs when I think digipaks since they're more commonly used for that media.
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It could also have nothing to do with effects at all or the art department at all. If the movie was, say, shot on RED, his role could be more akin to dealing with and maintaining the actual digital copies of the film takes. I also think it's too vague.
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It can take a while for them to process it, but ya, that's how you do it. I had them remove one that was submitted with the wrong UPC some time ago that conflicted with the actual release.
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I think it comes down to lack of staff. "New" profiles get added very quickly, with, probably, little review, as long as a referring UPC/Disk ID is provided for cast/crew. There also aren't as many people contributing as there once was as people have started abandoning physical media, so, perhaps, they let more slide in order to get the entry in to the DB, then others can review and "fix" it later. I know I recently rescanned my entire library and had to make over 200 new submissions, largely due to lack of Canadian UPC entries. 95% of the time the disk IDs were identical to US releases and the only real difference was a bilingual (English/French) cover, making the contributions easy. Still, I'm sure there there things I forgot to change at times, especially when processing that kind of volume, such as media company or the blurb on the back of the box, which is usually the same, but sometimes different in Canada than the US...same goes for rating. In a vast majority of cases, the US release has a more harsh rating than in Canada and I'm sure I forgot to fix it in some cases.

I disagree that the DB is chaos though. Try looking at the DB for Collectorz Movie Collector if you want to experience a real mess. I played with it for a while when it appeared DVDP was never going to receive the 4K updates and it's a disaster.
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If I remember right, the 4K Suicide Squad is the same, where the extended version is on BD and only the theatrical version is 4K. It kind of made me a bit angry when I received it. Now I double-check before buying any 4K.
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Actually, the on-line list doesn't show the nesting and it's not a great implementation with the mobile version, where it expands to a sub-page, so if I need to browse, in the mobile app I typically turn nesting off and hide anything that doesn't have a collection number. It would actually be nice if the web interface were a little more robust. I'd like to be able to apply filters and hide entries that do not have a collection number, for instance. This includes box set parents since I only give the children a number and don't want the parent counted, but I don't typically give "special edition" disks a number either. This is also true for DVD/BD combo packs and TV seasons, of which only the parent gets a number since I only want them counted once. If I'm browsing, this hides over 600 duplicate or redundant entries. The nesting really only works well on the windows platform or when all the movies in the set have the same name, The Godfather, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc.

As for the edition thing, I get where you're coming from and it's not a huge deal for me. It is a bit of preference and depends a bit on how one uses the tools. I'll usually use it if I submit a new box set, but I don't do out of my way to update the ones that already exist. 
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Quoting T!M:
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976-Evil II: Horror Collection: 8 Movie Pack

But how do the words "8 Movie Pack" apply to a child profile for a single movie? Only the box, and with that, the parent profile, is an "8 Movie Pack", but surely each of the individual child profiles aren't "8 Movie Packs", too?

But it essentially tells you immediately from the title edition which set the movie is in and it's just as valid/invalid as copying the box set cover to each child. I am Omega, for instance, I have it as an individual release, but it's also in a double feature set, and I have it again in a Midnight Horror 4 movie pack and Midnight Horror 10 movie pack. (Yes, I love zombie movies) In my mind, the edition seem the ideal way to distinguish these.
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I like to see when the edition is carried over to the children. It makes it obvious when a movie is part of a set, without having to look at the cover scan.

For instance,

976-Evil II: Horror Collection: 8 Movie Pack
Inferno: Dario Argento Collection: Volume 1
Kill Bill: Volume 1: Double Feature

Realistically though, there is no consistency at all. I have 3 different copies of Pit and the Pendulum and 4 different copies of I am Omega and none of them have edition information to distinguish them from each other...only the cover scan.
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I would go with the 13th. The publisher has the option to release early, if they so desire, but resellers, like Amazon will likely still have to wait. Amazon.ca says Nov 13th.
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I don't see the equivalency of "Box set" and "Box set packaging".  It seems that rating the parent of a box set is rather like providing the nutritional value of the box that cereal comes in.

I'm talking about rating each of the 5 child records in the box set, not the parent. The box says either 18A or R for each movie, but the disks inside the box clearly state "Unrated" for parts 2-5. As Kathy pointed out, the rules clearly state to use the the rating on the packaging, so that's what will be used, whether I agree with it or not. 
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OK. Sounds good. I find new additions tend to go in very quickly. I had some I put in today approved within an hour. Edits generally tend to take 5-7 days, though I haven't noticed upvotes making any difference. It's my first time getting "Reviewing" I think.
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I have one movie that has been sitting there in a "Reviewing" status since the 16th. The movie is a region free Japanese release, with a non-standard 14 digit bar-code that actually used to be in the DVDP database before the 12-digit codes became mandatory. I know this because I recently rescanned my entire library and it is in my original library. When to add this one and it was a no-go, so I added it via disk-ID and explained in the description why. The movie is called Naked Blood and up until the "Splatter" version was release in 2006, and now some newer ones, the Japan Shock version was the only release available, that I knew of, which came out in 2002.
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OK, noted. So the contributed details are specifically of those visually on the case/cover and should not reflect that of the actual content. If them's the rulez, that's how they'll get submitted. 

What about putting a line in the summary, or Other Special features field, for each movie saying that it's actually the unrated version, and that the 18A/R rating on the packaging is incorrect?
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I recently bought the Wrong Turn collection from Walmart. Canadian version. It needs to be added to the DB, of course (I hate doing sets). Soooo, the packaging conflicts with the content. For parts 2-5, the packaging say 18A or R, but the disks clearly state right on them that they are the Unrated versions. What do I submit them as?
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I don't see what's wrong with using a piece of information like that as long as it's from a reputable site, or other reliable source, such as an official trailer, even if it's not on the case. We're allowed other types of information that is never, or often not, on the case or in the credits, such as DVD release date, SRP, Original Title, Production Country, etc. I have some where the length of the movie is not on the case and have had to reach out to somewhere like Amazon. Video and audio formats are sometimes not on the case and not explicitly stated in the DVD menus, so unless you have a receiver that tells you the actual audio format (Other than "multi-channel PCM") and measure the screen size with a ruler, the options are to leave it out or guess.
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I opted to go without the asterisk. Thanks
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I believe the dash is only there because someone tried to use a bulletpoint character to represent the red dot, and it has since been changed to a hyphen.

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- Certain characters will be converted automatically during contribution. e.g. "•" will be converted to "-"

I would be fine with the asterisk.

Makes sense.
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The Spanish zombie movies [REC] have non-standard characters in the title and I'd like to fix them so they're at least consistent. There are 4 movies in the series. In the DVDP DB the copies I own currently are entitled:

[-REC]
[REC]²
[REC]³: Genesis
[REC]4: Apocalypse

Here is the original ttle


Now, I realize the character set DVD Profiler only supports superscript up to 3, so not much that can be done with the 4. But what about the red dot, which is in all the titles (Record symbol)? I'd like the titles to, be at least consistent when it comes to this. The hyphen in part one makes no sense visiually or logically. My personal preference would be to use an asterix so there is at least emphasis there, so

[*REC]
[*REC]²
[*REC]³: Genesis
[*REC]4: Apocalypse

If not that, I'd like to edit them so at least they're all consistent, so maybe

[REC]
[REC]²
[REC]³: Genesis
[REC]4: Apocalypse

Thoughts?
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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It's not perfect, since Twenty will sort before Two but it's how I've always done it. I think it's the data analyst in me.


I do it the other way around. Everything that starts with a number or a word that represents a number will be sorted under a digital number. While my largest number is only 4400 I went the safe route and padded for a million.

Now I have

0000001st Knight
0000002 Broke Girls
0000002.5 Men
0000007 Samurai
0000011:14
0000024
0004400

Should I ever get One Million B.C. that won't pose a problem.


I've been considering switching to this as well as it more closely matches the on-line list. I don't have One Million BC, but I do have 100 Million BC...B-movie goodness. 
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Quoting scotthm:
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It's not perfect, since Twenty will sort before Two but it's how I've always done it.

You could take care of that with something along these lines:

Tw 02.0
Tw 02.1
Tw 20

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True, thanks for the idea. I do something similar within the 20s, but it could be generalized more using just Tw. It's not like is a huge number of titles...perhaps 2 or 3 dozen that start with numbers.
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That's the Edit screen, not the Personalization screen. The personalization screen is the bottom option on the right. You can also reach it by pressing CTRL-P or right-clicking on the title and selecting "Personalize."


Yup, I figured it out, I'm just blind, that's all. The GIANT Sort Title field on the Personalize screen was apparently too hard to see.    It's also linked to the Sort Title on the General tab, so it can be edited in either location. I did a bunch last night. In general, I sort number titles alphabetically so that "2" and "Two" sort next to each other under "T". I've always been reluctant to change it as I didn't want to risk submitted something like this since I realize few people are likely to sort in a similar fashion. It's not perfect, since Twenty will sort before Two but it's how I've always done it. I think it's the data analyst in me.
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Nope...it's there and I'm just blind.  Apparently it was too big.  LOL So, are they both the same field?
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