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Quoting AiAustria:
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From my point of view, this would be a complete abuse of group dividers.

How can following the rules be an abuse of the rules?

The rule on dividers explicitly says:
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Use Group dividers to designate cast grouped in the credits such as "Soldiers" or "Additional Cast".

Special Appearance by is at least as "essential" as Additional Cast.

And don't suggest that one cannot be a group, because Invelos has approved far too many group dividers for song titles with a single author for me to buy that argument.

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Quoting Nosferatu:
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Wouldn't it look a little silly to have a list of names and then a group divider saying "Special Performance by" followed by one name and then other cast members after the end divider?

It may, but it would "mirror the film credits", which is what The Rules say to do.

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Quoting T!M:
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I don't see one person credited as "Guest Appearance by" as the same as a "Soldiers" or "Additional Cast" header followed by a group of names. The rule require that the cast is grouped to qualify for the use of a divider - one person can't be "grouped".

The fact that Invelos has approved the contributions of a multitude of group dividers for songs where there is only one song writer credited proves that it can be done, and furthermore Ken's statement that he seeks consistency in the online database suggests that we should consider a group of one as a valid group.

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Quoting T!M:
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If it's just one person, then it's not a group, so no group divider.

That's obviously not how Invelos see things, as they have approved a multitude of group dividers for song titles where there is only one song writer.

The rules regarding dividers say, "these groupings should mirror the film credits", and "Use Group dividers to designate cast grouped in the credits such as 'Soldiers' or 'Additional Cast'."  This certainly falls into the category of additional cast.

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"Special Appearance by" or "Guest Appearance by" should be a group divider.

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If they appear in the film as themselves then Himself/Herself/Themselves, plus in this case a "Special Performance by" group divider.

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Quoting Danae Cassandra:
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It clearly states based on the character from, not based on the novel by.  OCB

Yes.

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My menu says "Change UPC / Locality..." 

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It's only $46 per movie.  Who could resist?

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Quoting GSyren:
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what would you want if you could just get any wish?

User defined fields
The ability to filter on any field
An easier to use/more flexible report writer

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Quoting OldMan56:
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since support tickets or any other correspondence is being ignored for whatever reason and this has been going for at least 2 years IMO forum users should have the opportunity to hear about other programs available to them.

I would have had no objection if a link had been provided to another site where this discussion could take place rather than to derail this thread.

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When you have people who were dedicated to this program that put a lot of work into contributing making this database what it is today starting to call it quits should make you wonder what is wrong.

I also wonder what is going on.  It's not reasonable that Invelos has basically cut off all communication with the customer/user base.

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Quoting Binnerup:
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So, question is - is it professional to not give anyone just a simple status of things after this long? Is it professional that support inquiries are not responded to? Can you live with perhaps loosing access to your user account because of some events and you are unable to get help? Can you live with something potentially breaking down with any new iOS or Android update, and you have no way of knowing what to expect? Is that professional?

That question has already been answered that is is not.

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But hey, me posting here perhaps could get the cat out of the bag, which would likely be the most positive for users here.

But then again, neither is this, IMO.

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Quoting Kathy:
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I've had a query in the support forum for over a year and I am still waiting.

The lack of active support or comments from the powers that be is unprofessional

True, but that doesn't mean that other vendors should behave unprofessionally.

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Quoting Lowpro:
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It's bad form, irrespective of what the future holds here.  My Movies has their own website and forums.  These discussions back and forth with respects to migrating from DVD Profiler to My Movies can be discussed there.

Agreed.  It's rather predatory.

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Quoting GSyren:
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Ken himself has said that not everything can be covered in the rules. The implication – as I see it – is that we are to use our best judgment when something isn’t covered. In the context of the Churchill quote, I lean more towards England than Germany.

Then I'm really confused as to why this thread exists.  Just enter what  you want to and let the contribution process run its course.

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Quoting GSyren:
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So if we do determine the country of origin (through research), do we ignore the "letter of the law" and enter it even though it may not actually be in the credits?

The Rules are for Ken's online database.  That's how he wants data entered into his online database.  We can do whatever we want to locally.

If Ken really has a problem with a lot of CoO fields being unpopulated he is free to change The Rules at any time.

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Quoting GSyren:
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But here's the thing - some movies don't have any studio listed. So if we are to follow the rule exactly, we should not assign any CoO, even though we may know where the movie was made. But is that reasonable?

Yes it is reasonable to leave fields blank if you can't populate them without violating the rules.  Besides, knowing where a movie is made has nothing to do with the CoO.

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If you open a profile for editing you begin on the General Information tab.  On this screen the Case Type (and the Slip Cover checkbox) can influence whether or not banners appear.

Also, if you click on the Cover Scans tab you will see that Media Banner may be set to On, Off, or Automatic.

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When there is just one column I enter the cast from top to bottom, so I do the same thing when there are multiple columns (IOW, I enter the names by row, from top to bottom), unless there is some obvious reason not to, such as if the names are alphabetized by column.

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Quoting GSyren:
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I resent "can't be bothered".

Please don't take it that way.  I would say the same of myself, and is why I make very few contributions.

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Quoting mreeder50:
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But, if their individual credits are for both, wouldn't that mean they did both. If they were listed under a group heading of both and did not have individual credits, I would agree, not to list them because you wouldn't have any idea which they did.

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Quoting Gamemaster:
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This goes for only a list of people, not for individual credits. So what do you think we should do?

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Quoting paulb_99:
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But if there are a lot of mistakes in the cast credits (Wrong names, wrong order etc.), why would we assume the roles are correct?

And  what if there are NO MISTAKES, and only changes to a Common Name are being made?

Notice that GSyren isn't saying the roles are incorrect, only that he can't be bothered to check them himself and so doesn't feel comfortable re-contributing them.  I say he should save himself even more trouble and keep his changes local.

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I wouldn't list them in the online database since it's an ambiguous credit.  Some listed might be hair only, some might be make-up only, and some may do both.

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If Ken was worried about being sued he should probably not allow cast or crew data to be included in initial contributions, where no one is allowed to vote on it.  Also, he should probably stop allowing cast and crew to be copied from existing (often old and IMDB cloned) approved profiles.

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Quoting GSyren:
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If there were changes to the cast I can either contribute the corrected cast (w/o roles), or I can refrain from contributing the cast (leaving the uncorrected cast plus roles in the online).

Those are the only two options. I just want to know which one you think is better.

I vote for option two.  It makes your life easier and no one will ever complain about it.

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