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Quoting Sakuramboo:
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my question .... is there list of good sources or a set of rules as I've been looking and I can't seem a straight forward answer.

Yes, there are rules for entering cast and crew:

Contribution Rules: Credits

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Whenever I have a series of films I want to keep together I decide on a series name (Bond, MCU, Chan, etc.) and then decide on the order I want the films listed within that group.

For example, the sort titles for all my James Bond films are "Bond 01", "Bond 02", "Bond 03", etc. and I have these in production order.

The sort titles for all my Marvel MCU films are "MCU 01", "MCU 02", etc. and I have all these in MCU timeline order (as best I can tell).

I keep my Charlie Chan films in production order with the sort titles "Chan 01", "Chan 02", etc.  This all works pretty well for me.

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Quoting CubbyUps:
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So I don't think B&W would fit since it isn't that.

If scenes are monochromatic they are considered Black & White for profiler purposes.

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Quoting T!M:
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the same season of the same TV show should have the same original title in any locality, on any format - just like same film should have the same original title in any locality, on any format - purely for the sake of not needlessly cluttering up the raw CLT numbers any more than we need to.

Fine, when the rules are modified to allow this.  Right now they require the use of a feature title and not of a box set title.

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Can the Original Title apply to the season descriptor for a television boxed set? Here is the rule about the Original Title:

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Original Title
The Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title. For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits. For titles released outside their country of origin, use the original release title.

I pose two questions.

1) Does the Original Title rule even apply to boxed set titles (as opposed to feature titles), and if so
2) Does the Original Title rule apply to season descriptors that are not in the film credits?

Let's take an example:

DVD release: The X-Files: The Complete First Season
Blu-ray release: The X-Files: The Complete Season 1

Is The X-Files: The Complete First Season the Original Title of The X-Files: The Complete Season 1, given the following?

"The Complete First Season" is not in any of the credits of any of the episodes.
This is the U.S. release of a U.S. production.

Thoughts?

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Quoting CubbyUps:
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...or the screening process is not following the rules.

This should come as no surprise to anyone who is paying attention.

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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Are profiles that use 'Double Feature', is that to be entered in the Title section of the Edition section?

In this case, "Double Feature" suggests that we're talking about the title of a box set and not a movie, so it makes sense to me that it's part of the title and not an edition.  If you really feel the need to put this in the edition field then that should go in the child profiles that you create for the individual films.

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Quoting AndyEN:
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In this case, yes (English/Portuguese audio, English sub-titles). If memory serves, another one I looked at recently had Arabic/Hebrew audio and English subtitles.

If the English language is subtitled but the Portuguese is not then I would call that a Portuguese track.

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Are there burned in subtitles for one language but not the other?

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Quoting Gamemaster:
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Quoting scotthm:
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Yes they do, and that is covered in The Rules:

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Some companies (using similar but different names) may serve more than one function. List such companies only once

In case of Disney it's not that easy I think.

Before 2007 Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures was named Buena Vista Pictures Distribution, Inc. Would you have deleted Disney (or any other name with Disney in it) if the movie was still released under the Buena Vista name?

Perhaps not, but then again "Buena Vista" and "Walt Disney" are not "similar but different" names, they are entirely different names.

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Quoting Gamemaster:
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Understandable, but in this case I think both of them serve a different function.

Yes they do, and that is covered in The Rules:

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Some companies (using similar but different names) may serve more than one function. List such companies only once

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Quoting Gamemaster:
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So for Brave that would mean the studios we list are:

  • Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
  • Disney
  • Pixar Animation Studios

  • I'm not really comfortable with including Disney twice here.

    We have similar situations with other studios (TCF, for example) and I don't think we would list both of these under Studio, would we?  Aren't we told that, "Some companies (using similar but different names) may serve more than one function. List such companies only once".

    Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation
    Twentieth Century-Fox




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    Quoting MikaLove:
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    Because, I am assuming "Distributed" means they produced the movie...?

    This suggests that they are the Theatrical Release Studio, and not merely a production company.

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    Quoting GSyren:
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    The example given in the rules is perhaps a bit unfortunate, but to me the rule is quite clear. Enter the studio as credited (minus any company suffix).

    If the credit is "Walt Disney Pictures", then don't abbreviate it to "Disney". So it follows that if the credit is "Disney", then we enter it as "Disney".

    What about a film that says "Disney Presents" in the opening credits and "Distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures" in the closing credits?  The theatrical distributor gets top billing according to the rules.

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    Quoting DJ Doena:
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    What about Drama? Surely, they all contain the dramatic element. But here's the question: Which war movie doesn't? So isn't it kinda redundant to add the Drama genre as well?

    I don't think I would ascribe the Drama genre to "war" films like Buck Privates or Operation Pacific.

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    Quoting GSyren:
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    Just for fun I checked the credits in Coco, which was the latest profile in my collection that had Walt Disney Pictures entered as production company. Here is what I found regarding anything Disney:

    Production credit: Disney
    Copyright credit: Disney Enterprises
    Distribution credit: Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
    And then there were of course also credits for Pixar.

    So, no mention of Walt Disney Pictures anywhere in the credits that I could find.

    Since the "Theatrical Release Studio" for modern Disney films is Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures then per rule that is the highest priority "studio" to be contributed, followed by the production companies.

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    Quoting DJViking:
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    Has anyone gone over to using a different application for managing your movie collection?

    I expect someone has, but I haven't felt the need.

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    Quoting DJ Doena:
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    Using the online option is not really a good way to backup. It's more of a last resort way.

    Agreed.  You will definitely want to restore from a local backup, and do not disturb Profiler on your old PC until your backup has been restored to DVDP your new PC.

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    What does an "FX Supervisor" do?  What type of work do they supervise?

    I would say that if they supervise an effect that appears onscreen that would be a legitimate Visual Effects credit.

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    Quoting AiAustria:
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    From my point of view, this would be a complete abuse of group dividers.

    How can following the rules be an abuse of the rules?

    The rule on dividers explicitly says:
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    Use Group dividers to designate cast grouped in the credits such as "Soldiers" or "Additional Cast".

    Special Appearance by is at least as "essential" as Additional Cast.

    And don't suggest that one cannot be a group, because Invelos has approved far too many group dividers for song titles with a single author for me to buy that argument.

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    Quoting Nosferatu:
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    Wouldn't it look a little silly to have a list of names and then a group divider saying "Special Performance by" followed by one name and then other cast members after the end divider?

    It may, but it would "mirror the film credits", which is what The Rules say to do.

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    Quoting T!M:
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    I don't see one person credited as "Guest Appearance by" as the same as a "Soldiers" or "Additional Cast" header followed by a group of names. The rule require that the cast is grouped to qualify for the use of a divider - one person can't be "grouped".

    The fact that Invelos has approved the contributions of a multitude of group dividers for songs where there is only one song writer credited proves that it can be done, and furthermore Ken's statement that he seeks consistency in the online database suggests that we should consider a group of one as a valid group.

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    Quoting T!M:
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    If it's just one person, then it's not a group, so no group divider.

    That's obviously not how Invelos see things, as they have approved a multitude of group dividers for song titles where there is only one song writer.

    The rules regarding dividers say, "these groupings should mirror the film credits", and "Use Group dividers to designate cast grouped in the credits such as 'Soldiers' or 'Additional Cast'."  This certainly falls into the category of additional cast.

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    "Special Appearance by" or "Guest Appearance by" should be a group divider.

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    If they appear in the film as themselves then Himself/Herself/Themselves, plus in this case a "Special Performance by" group divider.

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