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Can we change the Title's spelling if we think it looks better than others??
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I am having another knock down dragged out fight on the contribution front over the title of 2010 The Year We Make Contact., I feel it DOES not warrant a colon as 2001 does because it is not there in the box and screen credit. Others feel that the very pronunciation of the title warrants a pause in the name.. " 2010: ( pause) The Year we Make Contact" .. I say I read    "2010  The Year We Make Contact" ..
2010 maybe a sequel but is not a franchise on the name, as 2010 is different spelling than 2001.., and the all other titles in data base that have the same first name, then a subtitle such as Austin Powers or Back to the Future Lord of the Rings, Superman etc., all have secondary post title.,  The Year we make contact is part of the title 2010 and is separate from 2001 in that franchise.

Like;  as other examples would you like to see ?
Once Upon a Time : In the West  / Once Upon a Time : in America      ???????
or National Lampoon's: Vacation  or National Lampoon's : Christmas Vacation  or
National Lampoon's : Animal House ??

But besides all this,, Since when ,, according to the Rules can we change a titles appearance on what we feel sounds better??  If we did that there would be more problems ahead.

If we use titles such as Star Wars or Star Trek. You would say as the ( box states) Star Wars A New Hope.,,  or Star Wars Return of the Jedi..  The post name is then a secondary to the first. Return of The Jedi is the a chapter or sequel to the previous title Star Wars , therefore a colon is permissible.

But 2010 is a sequel to 2001 but it has a different ambience., kinda like "The Sting II"  is not
"The Sting: II"
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I'm not sure I see the problem. 'Once Upon a time in the West' for example, is a complete phrase, need no breaking up. "All of this happened once upon a time in the West". You could possible have a comma after "time", but that would only really work if there was more to follow, and not even necessarily then. "Once upon a time, in the West, half a country elected a moron to the most powerful office in the land."

'2010 the year we make contact' doesn't flow. 'The year we make contact' is a description of the date, it's the ideal use of a colon.
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"The Year We Made Contact" is not part of the title, so the whole : or not is irrelevant.

The Title Screen in the credits shows only "2010", with cast on the pages on either side. Nowhere in the opening credits is is "The Year We Made Contact" listed.

So per the rules, the title should be "2010".

The modified titles rule does not apply, as "The Year We Made Contact" was on the original poster.

I would suggest it is nothing more than a tagline, and so has no place in the database.
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Agree with Andy. Since the tagline was on the poster, it's not a title that's been modified for the DVD as called for in the rules.
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2010 The Year We Make Contact is a modified Title which contains the original title and according to the rules is allowed.  The colon is not allowed as this movie isn't a series that requires differentiating.  It is a movie that stands on its own.  Accordingly the rules say to have "2010" as the original title.

Andy is absolutely correct.  All dissenters in this case are wrong.

The Rules are:
              Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break, e.g. "Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace".

Original Title
The Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title.  In cases where the title is the original title, leave the Original Title field blank.

    * Modified Titles: The Original Title field will contain the original theatrical title, while the Title field will contain the title of the DVD release.  For instance, for the Special Edition rerelease of There's Something About Mary:
          o Title: There's Something More About Mary
          o Original Title: There's Something About Mary
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2010 The Year We Make Contact is a modified Title which contains the original title and according to the rules is allowed.  The colon is not allowed as this movie isn't a series that requires differentiating.  It is a movie that stands on its own.  Accordingly the rules say to have "2010" as the original title.

Andy is absolutely correct.  All dissenters in this case are wrong.

That is not what I said.

It is not a modified title - "The Year We Made Contact" is purely a tagline, on the original poster. No different from any other tagline shown on a DVD box. Modified titles are for titles that are changed for DVD release - "There's Something More About Mary" etc. That is not the case here, the tagline was there before DVDs were invented!

The title should be "2010" with no original title needed.
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Just on the issue of: "2010 The Year We Make Contact". That would be incorrect grammatically. You would never see it like that if it were ever written on the same line. Punctuation would be needed. Colon makes most sense and is what we tend to favour in all areas of Profiler, e.g. "Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me", "Almost Famous: Untitled", "Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo", etc.
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"The Year We Made Contact" is not part of the title, so the whole : or not is irrelevant.

The Title Screen in the credits shows only "2010", with cast on the pages on either side. Nowhere in the opening credits is is "The Year We Made Contact" listed.

So per the rules, the title should be "2010".

The modified titles rule does not apply, as "The Year We Made Contact" was on the original poster.

I would suggest it is nothing more than a tagline, and so has no place in the database.


So then  "The Year We Make Contact " is a dist trait ???
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So then  "The Year We Make Contact " is a dist trait ???

Nope, it is a tagline. No different from any other tagline. They are not in the database at all.
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I don't own this title... so I have no way of knowing one way or the other... but going strictly by the poster that is linked to... it looks like it could be a subtitle too. Is it in the opening credits with/right after 2010?
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I don't own this title... so I have no way of knowing one way or the other... but going strictly by the poster that is linked to... it looks like it could be a subtitle too. Is it in the opening credits with/right after 2010?

It is not in the credits at all. It is also not in the credit block on the back cover.
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ok... well if it is not in the credits at all... I would have to think it is a tag-line as well... though just looking at that poster I can see where the confusion is coming from.
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Also, another tag line that made it onto posters was "Odyssey Two."

FWIW, it should just be 2010
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Also, another tag line that made it onto posters was "Odyssey Two."

FWIW, it should just be 2010

"Odyssey Two" was the book subtitle! 
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Quoting Lopek:
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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I don't own this title... so I have no way of knowing one way or the other... but going strictly by the poster that is linked to... it looks like it could be a subtitle too. Is it in the opening credits with/right after 2010?

It is not in the credits at all. It is also not in the credit block on the back cover.



Back cover is IRRELEVant, there is only two questions

"Use the title from the film's credits." and

"Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break, e.g. "Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace".

That supplies all the information that is needed.

If the The Year We Make Contact is On Screen it is part of the title, and the second part says how to deal with it. Simple answer, Mr. Lopek.

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That is what Andy is saying "The Year We Made Contact" isn't in the credits at all.

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