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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rules are to match the disc. State any changes made. What's the problem? | | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Surfeur: This all revolves around the simple FACT that you don't like the Rules and you want to be able to do things YOUR way. That's not going to happen. I will encourage you to participate, but if you choose not, that is your business and you should not come here and persist in whining about it. Do or Do NOT...that simple and that is your choice. Skip   | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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Today, I opened the database page to look at new recontributions. There was none. That is the first time for four years (including IVS years) that it happens concerning the DVDs I have in my collection.
Even if here most of people disagree with what I wrote before, I'm sure it's the beginning of what I fear : no more contributions, then no more interest for newbies to choose DVDprofiler if the database is empty...
I'm not sure that is exactly what Ken wants  .
I find that very hard to believe. I know I have seen many days/weeks where I didn't have a single profile to vote on. You seem to be exaggerating to try and bolster your point, but it doesn't ring true.  I have to agree... I am in Region 1 USA... and have over 2000 profiles in my collection and I have seen on several occasions that I didn't have anything to vote on... both here and at intervocative. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
You seem to be exaggerating to try and bolster your point, but it doesn't ring true. Useless to try to alert on a real problem. I'll stop to give my opinion here, it's impossible to discuss. It is also useless to answer me that it will be a good thing that I stop my posts, I know this is the opinion of most of people here. Just to laugh a little, I looked at your signature: No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of rules forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free  | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: May 15, 2007 | | Posts: 29 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Today, I opened the database page to look at new recontributions. There was none. That is the first time for four years (including IVS years) that it happens concerning the DVDs I have in my collection.
Even if here most of people disagree with what I wrote before, I'm sure it's the beginning of what I fear : no more contributions, then no more interest for newbies to choose DVDprofiler if the database is empty...
I'm not sure that is exactly what Ken wants . Even if I desagree with what you wrote before, I must admit that there are less and less contributors for locality France. And most of the contributions, I've seen these days, will be decline ( no sources or explanations write in French). | | | | Last edited: by alinoe |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wonder if the problem isn't really causedby the language barrier, alinoe. I suppose it could be thatthe French just have a problem having to follow Rules that don't specifically address what they perceive to be their need. But I don't want to get political here. If the French users choose not to participate, it is your loss, but if you do simply follow the Rules, NONE of them are that hard.
Let's face it French film offers few, if any, issues that are unique to them
Their films have Credit lists, just as Hollywood films do. So As Credited applies to them as well as. Overviews are written in French, of course and per the Rules you copy what is on the back, same as any other area. Anything that can be raised as an issue fro France is not an issue relative to film credits. For example the French usage of diacriticals, so what, if they are the screen use them, if they are not...don't.
Some international films DO present legitimate challenges but these do not revolve around some nationalistic desire, but from the lack of the ability of the program to deal properly with the characters in their language, such as Japanese, Russian, etc.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Posts: 179 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Today, I opened the database page to look at new recontributions. There was none. That is the first time for four years (including IVS years) that it happens concerning the DVDs I have in my collection.
surfeur51 I have roughly the same number DVD's in my collection that you do and, I can often go a day or two without seeing new contributions come along. My attitude is that the longer I do not see new contributions the better the quality of the contributions will be when they do come along. You are missing the entire original point of the program. It is simply a database. Contributions only exist to make it easier for collectors to keep data about their discs. I collect discs for enjoyment or collectible value. I really do no care who is in the crew of a movie or TV show. Contributions should be minimal. If you see new contributions all the time there comes a point where you must decide do I need this little piece of data. You can maintain a database of your own without online contributions. Someday it will come where there may be no online database and the die hard users will simply swap profiles via email. The online database is a free bonus that Ken spends his own money to maintain the core program would still function without it. Therefore he should be able to dictate what gets put into it. I am sure that if you wanted to foot the bill for the server and bandwidth for a couple of months he would let you put any IMDB data you wanted into it. Until then he should be able to dictate what is on his server. The online database is not even promoted on the Invelos front page. | | | | Brian | | | | Last edited: by BYATES1 |
| | Registered: May 15, 2007 | | Posts: 29 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I wonder if the problem isn't really causedby the language barrier, alinoe. I suppose it could be thatthe French just have a problem having to follow Rules that don't specifically address what they perceive to be their need. But I don't want to get political here. If the French users choose not to participate, it is your loss, but if you do simply follow the Rules, NONE of them are that hard.
Let's face it French film offers few, if any, issues that are unique to them
Their films have Credit lists, just as Hollywood films do. So As Credited applies to them as well as. Overviews are written in French, of course and per the Rules you copy what is on the back, same as any other area. Anything that can be raised as an issue fro France is not an issue relative to film credits. For example the French usage of diacriticals, so what, if they are the screen use them, if they are not...don't.
Some international films DO present legitimate challenges but these do not revolve around some nationalistic desire, but from the lack of the ability of the program to deal properly with the characters in their language, such as Japanese, Russian, etc.
Skip Playing by the rules is not a problem for me ( since I explain my sources, all my contributions are approved). I also think, the language barrier is the real problem...and the fact, most of the french contributors don't come to this forum (so they don't know about the "new" rules for new contributions). | | | | Last edited: by alinoe |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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You seem to be exaggerating to try and bolster your point, but it doesn't ring true.
Useless to try to alert on a real problem. I'll stop to give my opinion here, it's impossible to discuss. It is also useless to answer me that it will be a good thing that I stop my posts, I know this is the opinion of most of people here. I don't believe it is. What people would like is for you to stop trying to avoid following the rules. I have been here long enought to know how things were before the rules were published and it was a mess. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is for sure Unicus!.... it was beyond a mess back then... pretty much everyone doing whatever they wanted... I for one was thrilled to see the rules come out. And I am more then happy that Ken and Gerri is getting stricter on the sources and such.
After all... It really is no problem to source what you do.... and if you can't source something... just don't contribute that section! | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Today, I opened the database page to look at new recontributions. There was none. That is the first time for four years (including IVS years) that it happens concerning the DVDs I have in my collection.
Even if here most of people disagree with what I wrote before, I'm sure it's the beginning of what I fear : no more contributions, then no more interest for newbies to choose DVDprofiler if the database is empty...
I'm not sure that is exactly what Ken wants . Oh, please... 'I got dem old time paranoia blues...' | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting alinoe: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
Quote:
Today, I opened the database page to look at new recontributions. There was none. That is the first time for four years (including IVS years) that it happens concerning the DVDs I have in my collection.
Even if here most of people disagree with what I wrote before, I'm sure it's the beginning of what I fear : no more contributions, then no more interest for newbies to choose DVDprofiler if the database is empty...
I'm not sure that is exactly what Ken wants .
Even if I desagree with what you wrote before, I must admit that there are less and less contributors for locality France. And most of the contributions, I've seen these days, will be decline ( no sources or explanations write in French). Maybe it has something to do with the French contributors. You guys ever think of that? | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Funny that all "free" Americans agree with the police state DVD Profiler is becoming.  | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands | | | | Last edited: by Daddy DVD |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
Funny that all "free" Americans agree with the police state DVD Profiler is becoming. Well, I guess for mixing up adherence to a common set of simple rules with a "police state" you either have to be a teenager, retarded or Dutch. | | | | Michael |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,595 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 582 |
| | Posted: | | | | As it occured to anyone that we're in July now and that people start going on vacation. If we had statistics I'm sure we'd see that contributions always slow down in the summer.
And BTW, I don't think Surfeur51's problem is with the rules as a whole, I believe his concern is mainly the change in politics at Invelos' that contributions will be declined if source of information isn't stated properly. | | | My 4x4 Club: Club FJ Cruiser Quebec
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