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| Registered: April 13, 2007 |  Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am updating the cast and crew for this Norwegian edition of Gremlins. In the previous contribution, it's almost a blueprint of IMDB so I had to change almost all cast to match the end credits. But I'm wondering about the socalled special vocal effects, should they be included in the cast? On the endcredits it is as follows
Main Cast
Stunt players (wich are not included)
Special vocal effects wich includes 9 names
and last Mushroom who plays Barney (the dog)
So should I include the SVE? and at last the dog? | | | "What's God?"
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Look at the poll of this topic and you can conclude that about half of the users will say yes and the other half will say no. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| | Posted: | | | | The cast list ends with 'Mushroom who plays Barney (the dog)'. He, and everything above him...including stunts...gets included in the cast list. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Based on your description and Unicus' I would agree with Unicus, benty. I don't thin any of us would be terribly happy with it but...it sounds valid to me.
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| Registered: April 13, 2007 | | Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | The way I see it is like the stunt players are added after maincast, like in other movies, stunts, helicopterpilots, medics etc etc, and then (without stating it) Also featuring: Special Vocal Effects, mushroom the dog. So I'm in doubt that the stuntplayers should be credited  The dog is ok, since he got a role, and also the SVE since they're creating the voices, like in cartoons, you don't see the actors, but you hear their voice. Stuntplayers aren't "visually" if you know what I mean, you can't tell that was "Greg Gregson" doing stunt for Judge Reinhold i.e.. Hope you understand what I'm describing, I think it in Norwegian, and write it in English  | | | "What's God?"
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | I understand, but, we don't make those kinds of distinctions. If they are included as part of the main cast list, they get included. It isn't ideal, but it is what it is.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Benty:
Unicus is correct. I would have to see Credit screens BUT based on your description it is as Unicus answered, Some filmmakers do this...why...who knows not me, but they do and if they do we copy it. Sometimes you will Stunt Coordinators actually attached to the Cast List while their Stunt People are not.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | IMO the stunt people should be ignored because they are separated from the cast list (and therefore they are not actors who play as they were stunt people), but I would include the special vocal effects and the dog. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
IMO the stunt people should be ignored because they are separated from the cast list (...) If they are separated, you may be right. Are they separated here? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes; Quoting bentyman: Quote:
Main Cast
Stunt players (wich are not included)
Special vocal effects wich includes 9 names
and last Mushroom who plays Barney (the dog) | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
Yes; Wishfull thinking. If the stunt people are not separeted from the cast list, the may get included. Have to see the endcredits to see if there is a division between cast and stuntpeople. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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Wishfull thinking. If the stunt people are not separeted from the cast list, the may get included. Have to see the endcredits to see if there is a division between cast and stuntpeople.   | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
Quoting Giga Wizard:
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Yes;
Wishfull thinking. If the stunt people are not separeted from the cast list, the may get included. Have to see the endcredits to see if there is a division between cast and stuntpeople.
from the dutch version? Quote:
I am updating the cast and crew for this Norwegian edition could have different credits? but in your credits as there is a division between cast and stunt people the last credit should be Jim McKrell Lew Landers as I understand the rules. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
from the dutch version?
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I am updating the cast and crew for this Norwegian edition
could have different credits? but in your credits as there is a division between cast and stunt people the last credit should be Jim McKrell Lew Landers as I understand the rules. Yes, from the "Dutch" version and I'm pretty sure this is the same in the "Norwergian" version because of this: Quoting bentyman: Quote:
Main Cast
Stunt players (wich are not included)
Special vocal effects wich includes 9 names
and last Mushroom who plays Barney (the dog) (Bolded by me) | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | You never know?: Quoting RHo: Quote:
And I have seen modified credits where there is an alternate cut (e.g. for rating reasons) for a different locality. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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