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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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I have just bought a film called “Double Bunk” (1961) in the end credits there are two actors who are credited with their character names only

Ron and Eff were played on the radio by Dick Bentley and June Whitfield in the existing profile they are entered
Dick Bentley...............Ron (Voice)
June Whitfield............Eff (Voice)
Should they also be entered as uncredited?
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Don't know them, but is it possible that "Ron & Eff" are stagenames, than they should be credited with their stagenames role should be "himself".

EDIT: If you use their real names it's definitely not "uncredited" better would be "credited as"
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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I did some snooping around and discovered that 'Ron & Eth' were radio characters played by Dick Bentley and June Whitfield.  Not sure why the credit is 'EFF'. 

Anyway, since they are characters played by actors this doesn't qualify for 'credited as'.  I am not sure how this should be entered as a credited role without a cast name isn't covered by the rules.  I am inclined to leave it the way it is already entered.
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Maybe both?

"Ron & Eff"................
Dick Bentley...............Ron (Voice) (Uncredited)
June Whitfield............Eff (Voice) (Uncredited)
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I like your idea, synner.

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It is an interesting idea, but I am trying to figure out what value it adds to the profile.  Ron and Eff aren't actors, they are characters.  I guess you could add them as 'Ron & Eff as themselves'.  But even then... 
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Double Bunk (1961)
Double Bunk (1961)
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Dick Bentley ... Ron (voice)
Tom Gill ... Customs Officer
June Whitfield ... Eth (voice)
from the Credit rules:

If a film does not have standard credits, use the following rules:
If a film has actors listed in the opening credits, which are not listed in the end credits, add these to the list in DVD Profiler before those taken from the end credits.
If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits.
If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited.
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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Actually this raises another question Tom Gill is listed on IMDb as being in the film but is not in the film credits should he be deleted from the profile or marked uncredited.
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Now come on, this is obvious, ninehours. On its face he is (uncredited) right...did IMDb make the film? Next question, is he already in the profiler list pre 2005  if yes stop and go no further.  If not can he be verified as being involved in the film BEYOND IMDb, if yes include him (uncredited), if not then don't.

How could he possibly be credited when he is not in the film credits?

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If you could visualize the "Tom Gill - Customs Officer" to be:
Tom Gill - 1916-1971, British actor (Carry On Admiral, Carry On Constable) the 8th actor from the top.
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This profile was entered March 2007 and it looks like it may have been copied from IMDb as roles of actors and crew are entered as they are on IMDb and not as they are in the film credits.
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you could toss them out if you want to.
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Simple ninehours. It is a matter of FACT. Either he IS in the film credits or he is not, if he is NOT then the ONLY way he stays is by verification.He is obviously and IMDb, as usual is WRONG, right.?

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OK i think this is Tom Gill from the film what do you think is it the same person?

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make a poll for it. I think the nose and chin are the same.
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Quoting Giga Wizard:
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I think the nose and chin are the same.

I agree. I say: keep him, and tag him as (uncredited).
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