I was going over the profile for the cast of the martial arts spoof Kung Pow: Enter the Fist and some names in the profile don't match the credited on screen name.

Also in the profile there is no use of the Credited As to match how the name appears on screen.

I am not sure as to how to do the cast for this film.


For example the on screen credits shows the following.

Master Pain (Betty
LUNG FAI

Young Master Pain
LEO LEE

Ling
TSE LING LING


But in the profile it shows the following
Fei Lung as Master Pain (Betty)

Leo Lee as Young Master Pain

Ling Ling Tse as Ling

and so on.


What would be the correct way to enter their names and what about credited as?

Quoting skipnet50:

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The CORRECT entry i AS CREDITED

Indeed should our profiles always reflect the data as credited on-screen - but it's important to note that the rules also require us to use the "credited as" feature "where the person's name differs from the credited name" (quoted from the contribution rules). So while the "credited as" field should indeed always contain the name as seen on-screen, the actual "name" field doesn't necessarily have to. According to the rules, you are supposed to use the most-credited form as the person's "name" (which is to be established using the "credit lookup" tool on this site), and then use the "credited as" feature to show where they're credited differently.

It's also worth noting that a group of users pleads for a standardized way of entering Chinese names (see here), but there doesn't seem to be a real consensus yet.

There are different point of views on the subject. See the recent eleven-page thread on Chinese Names.
I personally think Last Name is just a synonym for Family Name, so I would enter those names accordingly: the Last Name in the Last Name field, and so on.
Perhaps you might want to also use the "Credited As" field, as Unicus suggested in that thread, to show that names were reversed on screen.

On the other hand, others think that "Last Name" is just the name you see last on screen, regardless of its meaning. My objections to that are as follows:
1. the usual meaning of the expression "Last Name" in English is "Family Name": dictionaries and Wikipedia can confirm that, and there is nothing in the Rules to make us think otherwise. The meaning stays the same even when we speak of Chinese Last Names: we actually mean Chinese Family Names.
2. If we didn't care of what the Family Name is, why would we bother to contribute three name fields and be able to sort names by Last Name? If we really don't care of what the Family Name is and what the Given Name is, then let's use one name field, not three;
3. If we didn't care of Family Names, why would we enter double-barreled family names in the last name field, as we always do?;
4. If you enter "John // Wayne" when it's "John Wayne" on screen, and "Wayne // John" when all credits are reversed and it's "Wayne John" on screen, you'll end up with two entries  for the same person and even the same Given Name and Family Name! 

Quoting EnryWiki:

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But does it differ? Or is it just us who read it in the wrong way, when it comes to Chinese credits?
The program just asks to enter the Last Name, and the Last Name is the Family Name, even when it's written in reverse order.

You certainly do have a point there. I haven't participated in that debate yet, mostly because I'm personally still not entirely sure of the best way to handle these (or better yet: how to catch that in a clear, consise rule). I mainly felt that Skip's post, which, to certain (new) users, might seem to suggest that there's nothing more to entering cast & crew than simply copying everything "as credited", needed an extra note to show that things aren't that simple. As has been pointed out in other recent threads about the subject: as long as we don't get any guidance from Ken, preferably through a rules update, this will remain a minefield.

If the credits are:
Western (Western language aka English, Dutch, French, German, ...) use the credit as you see: All names are Westernised.
Eastern (Eastern language aka  Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese enter the credit according there custom.
Other languages (Arabic,  Sino-Tibetan, Tai-Kadai, Austronesian languages, ...) enter the credit according their custom.
Use the writing of the region, locality where the dvd is released for (whenever possible)

BTDT, Winter

@Enry:

Take note that what you refer to in the Tools Options relative to Name settings is a LOCAL decision, an option which does NOT exist in the Online. As Credited means the data ONLINE looks like it does On screen.

Skip

Quoting wintermute115:

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Actually, another question occurs to me: gven that, so far as I can tell, Marion Morrison never legally changed his name to "John Wayne", shouldn't it count as a stage name and be parsed as "John Wayne //"?

Good question, but personally I would leave it as "John // Wayne".
I think the examples provided in the Rules show that the Rule is intended for stage names that are just first names or fantasy names, not those in the form of Given Name and Family Name.

Quoting the Rules:

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If an actor name is only a first name or stage name enter it entirely in the first name field. Examples are Cher, Madonna, Cedric the Entertainer & Queen Latifah.

Quoting CubbyUps:

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For example the on screen credits shows the following.

Master Pain (Betty
LUNG FAI

Young Master Pain
LEO LEE

Ling
TSE LING LING


But in the profile it shows the following
Fei Lung as Master Pain (Betty)

Leo Lee as Young Master Pain

Ling Ling Tse as Ling

There's clearly something wrong with the profile if your typing is correct.  Looks to me that whoever did the profile wasn't consisted.  Fei (Fai) Lung's name and Ling Ling Tse's make were inverted but not Leo Lee.  So it should be either

    Fei(Fai) Lung as Mater Pain (Betty)
    Lee Leo as Young Master Pain
    Ling Ling Tse as Ling
or
    Lung Fai as Mater Pain (Betty)
    Leo Lee as Young Master Pain
    Tse Ling Ling as Ling

Unless the profiler knows something about Leo Lee/Lee Leo that the person who did the credits didn't

I'm not sure which way should be credited but think that whatever way is used it should be consistent.