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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,535 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's another interesting credit from Spacebabes and the Monsters:
Story by
Brad Linaweaver
Written by
Buddy Barnett
Kathe Duba-Barnett
Chuck Williams
I entered this as OMB for Linaweaver and Screenwriter for the rest. Does that seem correct? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would have given the "Written By" credits a "Writer" credit in DVDP. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | agreed with hal9g, Written By = Writer credit  | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ha, another much-debated issue... While what you did is a perfectly accurate reflection of what actually happened (Brad Linaweaver wrote a story from which the others wrote the screenplay), the majority of the community has chosen to simply look at the credit as seen on-screen, and in this case that means "written by" will get a "writer" credit no matter what. Brad Linaweaver still gets OMB, of course. Here in DVD Profiler world, we're tracking what job someone is credited with (in this case: writers), not so much what their job actually was (in this case: screenwriters). Depending on how you look at it, it's not hard to declare your method to be the more "correct" one, but hey: when has that ever stopped us before?  Anyway: I've relented a long time ago, and am now mostly following the "whatever they're credited with" method. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,594 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Ha, another much-debated issue... While what you did is a perfectly accurate reflection of what actually happened (Brad Linaweaver wrote a story from which the others wrote the screenplay), the majority of the community has chosen to simply look at the credit as seen on-screen, and in this case that means "written by" will get a "writer" credit no matter what. Brad Linaweaver still gets OMB, of course.
If you ask me, your method is the more "correct" one, but hey: when has that ever stopped us before? What you suggest T!M is fine locally but for contribution purposes it must be Writer as the Credit Table for Writing leaves us no choice: Section: Writing Roles: Writer: Used for Original Screenplays only Based on Charachters by: Used for screenplays based on characters from another work, credit the author of the characters here. For example comic adaptations and sequels. Credited as: Writer or Written by I agree that Screenwriter is the more appropriate credit as the screenplay was not Original but in fact based on Brad Linaweaver's Story  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | What about Writtenby is so hard to understand, why are you trying to make it mean something OTHER than what it says. WRITER. It's been that way since July 2005..  The credit does NOT say Screenwriter. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| | Posted: | | | | Well, if we are to go strictly according to the rules, then I guess only Linaweaver gets credited.
Here's how that would go: Original screenplays gets Writer credit - if onscreen credit is Writer or Written by. Adapted screenplays get a Screenwriter credit - if onscreen credit is Screenwriter, Screenplay or Teleplay. Since neither apply here, they get no credit at all in Profiler.
So Screenwriter - as far as I can understand - follows the intention of the rules (adapted screenplay) even though the actual onscreen credit is misleading. Writer credit, as I see it, is definitely wrong, it follows neither the rules nor the intention. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
agreed with hal9g, Written By = Writer credit Agree also, Written By = Writer credit. My goodness, this has been discussed like about 350.000 times in the past couple of years. Why can't we leave it at that ? | | | | Michael |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Well, if we are to go strictly according to the rules, then I guess only Linaweaver gets credited.
Here's how that would go: Original screenplays gets Writer credit - if onscreen credit is Writer or Written by. Adapted screenplays get a Screenwriter credit - if onscreen credit is Screenwriter, Screenplay or Teleplay. Since neither apply here, they get no credit at all in Profiler.
So Screenwriter - as far as I can understand - follows the intention of the rules (adapted screenplay) even though the actual onscreen credit is misleading. Writer credit, as I see it, is definitely wrong, it follows neither the rules nor the intention. The "comments section" of the credit table is trumped by the "Credited As" section. Strictly by the Rules, they should all be credited. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Gunnar:
ALL you have to do is follow the English language Written by=Writer, it was that way three years ago, it's that way TODAY. Sometimes...I really wonder.....
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Well, if we are to go strictly according to the rules, then I guess only Linaweaver gets credited.
Here's how that would go: Original screenplays gets Writer credit - if onscreen credit is Writer or Written by. Adapted screenplays get a Screenwriter credit - if onscreen credit is Screenwriter, Screenplay or Teleplay. Since neither apply here, they get no credit at all in Profiler.
So Screenwriter - as far as I can understand - follows the intention of the rules (adapted screenplay) even though the actual onscreen credit is misleading. Writer credit, as I see it, is definitely wrong, it follows neither the rules nor the intention. Here is the WGA's: Writers Guild of America West and Writers Guild of America East definition: ( 2nd link is pdf download) Quote:
7. "Written by"
The term "Written by" is used when the writer(s) is entitled to both the "Story by" credit and the "Screenplay by" credit.
This credit shall not be granted where there is source material of a story nature. However, biographical, newspaper and other factual sources may not necessarily deprive the writer of such credit. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The "comments section" of the credit table is trumped by the "Credited As" section. The rules don't say that. While this is a common interpretation, it's only an interpretation and not the only possible one. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,535 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
ALL you have to do is follow the English language And here I thought that we were supposed to follow the rules, not the language...  | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The "comments section" of the credit table is trumped by the "Credited As" section Judging from the other entries in the "Notes" column (not "Comments"), the opposite seems to be true. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have said it before, and I will say it again, the 'notes' section for writter needs to be deleted. It does nothing but cause confusion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is pretty simple.
If the credit is listed under the "Credited as" section, that's all you need to know. Use that credit in DVDP.
The Notes was simply meant to clarify. In this case it fails. | | | | Hal |
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