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country of origin not available; how to add? |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,877 |
| | Posted: | | | | I suppose I'm just anal and OCD about cataloging, but I've been going through my collection and trying to make sure that all of my profiles have the country of origin listed. But I've encountered a bit of a problem... I have the DVD of a film whose country of origin is not one of the choices that is available (Afghanistan, the film is Osama). Is there a way to add a new country to the drop down choices? | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield | | | | Last edited: by Danae Cassandra |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Right now you would have to leave the COO blank for Contribution purposes. You could create a Tag for Afghanistan which would tag it for your local, but right now that's it.
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
I suppose I'm just anal and OCD about cataloging, but I've been going through my collection and trying to make sure that all of my profiles have the country of origin listed. But I've encountered a bit of a problem...
I have the DVD of a film whose country of origin is not one of the choices that is available (Afghanistan, the film is Osama). Is there a way to add a new country to the drop down choices? For your local database, you can customize the list of countries using a translation file. If there is a country you do not use, you "translate" it to Afghanistan. Of course, you may not contribute the concerned profiles. tools>options>system>language>edit | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
For your local database, you can customize the list of countries using a translation file. If there is a country you do not use, you "translate" it to Afghanistan. Of course, you may not contribute the concerned profiles. You may contribute the concerned profiles, but you cannot contribute any replaced country, language or genre name as they will still be shown by their original name in the submitted contribution. So if for example you replaced Singapore with Afghanistan, you will still see Singapore when you will try to make a contribution. Of course this shouldn't be a problem if you rarely or never make contributions anyway. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands | | | | Last edited: by Daddy DVD |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
You may contribute the concerned profiles, but you cannot contribute any replaced country, language or genre name as they will still be shown by their original name in the submitted contribution. So if for example you replaced Singapore with Afghanistan, you will still see Singapore when you will try to make a contribution. Of course this shouldn't be a problem if you rarely or never make contributions anyway. I think there's also a danger when downloading a new profile. If you've swapped Singapore with Afghanistan and subsequently download a new profile that has a CoO of Singapore, wouldn't your local DB translate it as Afghanistan? I think someone who makes a substitution like Surfeur recommends would be wise to be careful about downloads as well as contributions. It's a good work-around for the missing CoO, but it's something one should use carefully. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with l'il ken.  (Couldn't resist) These types of mods do carry their share of risks. I think the best answerfor this and for the subtitles issue. Is for the other field to be carry with it a an additional field which could be user defined (I don't envision this being used for SDH), strictly for languages/countries which we do not have in the list. Should they be uploadable, not sure, not having a copy of Delphi, I don't know whether Other(serbia) would conflict with Other(Afghanistan(, the positive side to being uploadable would be that Ken would get quantifiable numbers which would e helpful to him in determining whether a language/country should be added to the list on its own. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is no real danger. If you do not use a certain country, language or genre and you accidentally download a profile which has one of the replacements as "incorrect" data in your database, you can just empty that particular field. You just need to take notes what you replaced with what and need to check every profile you download. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sounds like way too much trouble for little benefit, Martin. Now let's complicate the matter some more. Today Cassasandra sets up, oh say Singapore as Afghanistan to accomodate Osama and she doesn't need (she thinks) Singapore, next week lo and behold, she buys something that has <gasp>Singapore on it. Short run gain, long term headache, the solution is no solution, I return my first post on this. All she can do is wait for Ken to make the necessary addition, if and when he chooses to do so. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
There is no real danger. If you do not use a certain country, language or genre and you accidentally download a profile which has one of the replacements as "incorrect" data in your database, you can just empty that particular field. You just need to take notes what you replaced with what and need to check every profile you download. All I intended to do was caution people that they may experience a problem with future downloads. I agree it's probably not a significant risk, but it is one nonetheless. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | I really wouldn't use translation features to redefine the meaning of data values - that's really bad practice and will lead to all kinds of confusion.
I remember that this already came up once for genres, now we get the suggestion to "translate" CoO. Hey, here is another one: I don't care about those sound credits. Maybe I should translate Sound Recordist with Costume Designer? | | | | Matthias |
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| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
I really wouldn't use translation features to redefine the meaning of data values - that's really bad practice and will lead to all kinds of confusion.
I couldn't agree more!!  | | | Berak
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
I really wouldn't use translation features to redefine the meaning of data values - that's really bad practice and will lead to all kinds of confusion.
I remember that this already came up once for genres, now we get the suggestion to "translate" CoO. Hey, here is another one: I don't care about those sound credits. Maybe I should translate Sound Recordist with Costume Designer? Big ^5, Mathias. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
I really wouldn't use translation features to redefine the meaning of data values - that's really bad practice and will lead to all kinds of confusion.
I remember that this already came up once for genres, now we get the suggestion to "translate" CoO. Hey, here is another one: I don't care about those sound credits. Maybe I should translate Sound Recordist with Costume Designer? Well, I have used translation files to customize dvdprofiler for my local database since the beginning, five years ago, and never saw any problem with that. In fact, with 3.5, and the new genre feature, I came back to standard use, and it took me about 3 minutes to do it, but I had lived 5 years with the genres I wanted. Same for name of actors, I use given name, second given and family name, and not first, middle, last... | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | @ surfeur51 Changing the field names that could be ok, changing the data in the fields is not done. But as you said it is in your local and you never contribute any more. So don't try to convince other users this is good practice, it is not. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
@surfeur51
Changing the field names that could be ok, changing the data in the fields is not done. But as you said it is in your local and you never contribute any more. So don't try to convince other users this is good, practice it is not. ROFLMAO Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Quoting Giga Wizard:
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@surfeur51
Changing the field names that could be ok, changing the data in the fields is not done. But as you said it is in your local and you never contribute any more. So don't try to convince other users this is good, practice it is not.
ROFLMAO
Skip I discover Giga Andouille's last stupidity through Skip's quote. First, it is stupid to adress directly to a user that you perfectly know he blocked you. Second, it is stupid to speak of good practice. Each user bought this program to use it as he wants, and since Ken implemented a translation possibility, why not use it. For some users, their hobby is to contribute bad data (rules forbid to contribute good ones), and for others, it is to have a local database clean of spelling mistakes, with correct spelling of actors and directors, and the CoO that matches... To finish, I remember a recent thread where we were speaking with Nadja of unfriendly forums. The smileys chosen by Giga Andouille are a good illustration of my position : agressive, as this user is always. | | | | Images from movies |
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