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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with you locally:Hal, but that isn'tContributable. See the walt Disney Treasures.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Not knowing anything about these DVDs, looking purely at the cover I'd have gone for:
Title: The Age of the Train
Edition: The British Transport Films Collection: Volume Seven This is what I would think it is as well. To me The Age of the Train is the title of the program contained on the dvd. It's likely what the entire focus of the program is, so I would assume that would be the title of the dvd. Just my 2 cents. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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Not knowing anything about these DVDs, looking purely at the cover I'd have gone for:
Title: The Age of the Train
Edition: The British Transport Films Collection: Volume Seven
This is what I would think it is as well.
To me The Age of the Train is the title of the program contained on the dvd. It's likely what the entire focus of the program is, so I would assume that would be the title of the dvd.
Just my 2 cents. That would be consistent with the Walt Disney Treasures. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I agree with you locally:Hal, but that isn'tContributable. See the walt Disney Treasures.
Skip Do the Walt Disney Treasures have "Volume" numbers after them? | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can understand the reticence about placing volume numbers in the edition field - I just couldn't think of a better place to put it. However, after thinking about it for a while I'd support Snark's suggestion:
Title: Volume Seven: The Age of the Train
Edition: The British Transport Films Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Age of the Train: Volume Seven
Edition: The British Transport Films Collection
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 775 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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I agree with you locally:Hal, but that isn'tContributable. See the walt Disney Treasures.
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Do the Walt Disney Treasures have "Volume" numbers after them? I agree, inconsistent comparison. The use of the word "collection" on the title is being red herringed, this is a not just a collection of disparate features into a range, it's a numbered series. The volume number certainly can't go in the edition field and "volume x: individual title" doesn't make sense for the main title. I think Martin hit it just right. EDIT: And it's not volume 7 of "The Age of the Train", it's volume 7 of the BTFC. | | | | Last edited: by Nadja |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Nadja: Quote:
"volume x: individual title" doesn't make sense for the main title. Now you've been here long enough to know that sense is the last thing we use to define a title!  But seriously, the reason I prefer Snark's option is because that is what the edition field is for: to list collections. I know the "Volume Seven:" bit is a bit strange, but I don't think it's so out there to be totally cast aside as an option. Edit: and you're right Volume Seven has to go before The Age of Trains, anything else is simply incorrect and not as per the cover. So it's simply a case of where do we put "The British Transport Films Collection"? | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | IF we go with Martin's suggestuopn which is not unreasoanble. Then there would be no use of the edition field for anything. It would be simply the title.
Title: The British Transport Films Collection: Volume Seven: The Age of the Train makes sense,
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| Registered: January 15, 2008 | | Posts: 16 |
| | Posted: | | | | The contribution rules for 'edition' state
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
In this case 'The British Transport Films Collection' doesn't distinguish between different releases of the same title, it is actually grouping dvds of different titles into one large collection
Think I am going to go with Martin's suggestion, which is very close to the format that has been approved in the past. | | | | Last edited: by dvdmoo |
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| Registered: January 15, 2008 | | Posts: 16 |
| | Posted: | | | | Going back to the original question, why would a title that is obviously wrong (title abbreviated and words substituted with numbers) be approved for inclusion over the original submission, especially when cover scans were available to check against? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dvdmoo: Quote:
Going back to the original question, why would a title that is obviously wrong (title abbreviated and words substituted with numbers) be approved for inclusion over the original submission, especially when cover scans were available to check against? I wonder if the screeners can see the cover scans when they are voting on changes to a title/edition? If not, perhaps it would be a good idea to give the screeners that ability, so that they can compare the submitted change against the actual cover that matches the profile. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dvdmoo: Quote:
The contribution rules for 'edition' state
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
In this case 'The British Transport Films Collection' doesn't distinguish between different releases of the same title, it is actually grouping dvds of different titles into one large collection
Think I am going to go with Martin's suggestion, which is very close to the format that has been approved in the past. I can't help but wonder if we aren't engaged in selective reading of the Rules, which was why i stated the title as i did initially. Like I said I don't think that Martin's idea is unreasonable. But.... this would seem to be an exception to the strict interpretation of the rules, but exceptions as i have discussed many times can be very risky and have far-reaching impact and that I find worrisome. A strict reading of the Rules would result in: The Age of the Train: Volume Seven Edition: The British Transport Films Collection Skip Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
A strict reading of the Rules would result in:
The Age of the Train: Volume Seven
Edition: The British Transport Films Collection A strict reading of the rules would absolutely not result in that. 'The Age of the Train' is a subtitle of 'Volume Seven' not the other way round. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just so you don't go on thinking wrongly about the Edition Field Rules.... Quote:
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title. The Edition field is used for 3 separate things... not just for distinguishing between DVDs... 1. Distinguishing between DVDs 2. Indicate Special Verisons 3. Indicating Collections | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: January 15, 2008 | | Posts: 16 |
| | Posted: | | | | I read 'The British Transport Films Collection' to relate to the collection of these films held by the British Film Institute who produce the DVD and own the rights to these films. It does not indicate a speacial version or differentiate between different releases of the same title |
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