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| Registered: January 16, 2010 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,617 |
| | Posted: | | | | The 1972 horror Film Baron Blood (by Mario Bava) is an Italian-German Coproduction. This is mentioned by several sources (wikipedia, imdb, etc.) and is also supported by the production companies in the current profile for the German Blu-ray (EAN: 4020628785772): Euro America Produzioni Cinematografiche (Italian company) Dieter Geissler Filmproduktion (German company) Both companies are also listed on the release's back cover as following:© 1972 Euro America Produzioni Cinematografiche - Dieter Geissler Filmproduktion. All rights reserved. So, a clear case when it comes to production companies and Countries of Origin? Sadly not because both companies are nowhere to be found within the film's credits. The master for this Blu-ray is most likely a American cinema print and the only company credits are:  Leone International is the (Italian) company of producer Alfred Leone and Cinevision was (according to the imdb) the original US theatrical realising company for this film back in 1972. So which company gets a production company credit and what are the CoOs? | | | Think different
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only "per the rules" answer would be Leone International & Cinevision because that is what is listed in the film credits and, per the rules, "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself...or in this case, the Blu-ray.
I could see adding Euro America Produzioni Cinematografiche - Dieter Geissler Filmproduktion, since they are on the back cover, but the film credit studios should be listed first. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
The only "per the rules" answer would be Leone International & Cinevision because that is what is listed in the film credits and, per the rules, "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself...or in this case, the Blu-ray. Where in the rules do you read something like that? | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
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The only "per the rules" answer would be Leone International & Cinevision because that is what is listed in the film credits and, per the rules, "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself...or in this case, the Blu-ray.
Where in the rules do you read something like that? Not something like that, exactly that. First page of the rules, fourth paragraph. It goes on to say, "Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover. In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible." | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
It goes on to say, "Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover. In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible." Playing the devil's advocate: the use of the words "whenever possible" implies that there will be cases where that's not possible. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | No need for any kind of advocate  The cited text - in conjunction with the total lack of source information provided with the Studios section - makes it rather clear: The back cover is a valid source and it can't be verified, since the opening credits don't list them. BTW - just for my curiousity: what read the end credits, I mean the copyright notice? | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: January 16, 2010 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,617 |
| | Posted: | | | | This copyright notice:  Internation Media Films is (according to the back cover: Under licence from ...) the licensor of this film. | | | Think different
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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It goes on to say, "Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover. In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible."
Playing the devil's advocate: the use of the words "whenever possible" implies that there will be cases where that's not possible. Indeed, and there have been...at least two that I can remember that had zero cast or crew credits. One used the official site, and the other used a playbill for the credits. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
No need for any kind of advocate
The cited text - in conjunction with the total lack of source information provided with the Studios section - makes it rather clear: The back cover is a valid source and it can't be verified, since the opening credits don't list them.
BTW - just for my curiousity: what read the end credits, I mean the copyright notice? I never said that the back cover wasn't a valid source, just that the on screen credits take precedent over the cover as the disc is the authoritative source. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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