Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Hand colored
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,684
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I just bought the BD of George Méliès' A Trip to the Moon.
It is currently listed as Color. But it is actually shot in b/w and hand colored. There is no color alternative that really fits that, but my thinking is that Colorized is the one that comes closest.

Thoughts?
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 4,245
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Confusing at best.

I guess one would have to determine what the original intent was of the filmmakers was back then.
Did they want it in B&W and the colorization was done later?
Did they colorize it because color film didin't exist or was too expensive back then, and they wanted it to be in color?
Did they find documentation years later that the filmmakers intended it to be in color originally?

I think that if it was always the intent of the filmmakers for the film to be in color (regardless of how or when that was achieved) that Color would fit.

If it was done just to colorize it, then Colorized would fit. Like how Turner went on a colorization craze back in the 1990's.

Just to make it even more confusing I found this on Wikipedia
Quote:
"Méliès sold black-and-white and color prints of the film through his Star Film Company"
.

So what now?

Going back, perhaps Colorized would be the best choice since on it's original release it was released in both B&W and in Color.

I don't know, it's just so confusing.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,736
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
my thinking is that Colorized is the one that comes closest.

I'd agree with that.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorAiAustria
Profiling since 2004
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Austria Posts: 5,715
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I would assign colorized for everything, which was shot in B/W but is presented with any kind of colors.

I would not distinguish based on technique or intention - this would heighten the complexity to an unbearable level.
Complete list of Common Names  •  A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,851
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting AiAustria:
Quote:
I would assign colorized for everything, which was shot in B/W but is presented with any kind of colors.

That would include Technicolor features, which were shot on B&W film.  I couldn't agree with this suggestion.

---------------
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
Contributor since 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Sweden Posts: 3,197
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
What about film that was shot in color but made b&w in post? 
First registered: February 15, 2002
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorAiAustria
Profiling since 2004
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Austria Posts: 5,715
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting scotthm:
Quote:
Quoting AiAustria:
Quote:
I would assign colorized for everything, which was shot in B/W but is presented with any kind of colors.

That would include Technicolor features, which were shot on B&W film.  I couldn't agree with this suggestion.

Yes, my definition was not precisely enough. I forgot, that back then in the early times, full color was not available in a single step process...
Complete list of Common Names  •  A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorAiAustria
Profiling since 2004
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Austria Posts: 5,715
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting iPatsa:
Quote:
What about film that was shot in color but made b&w in post? 

Decolorized 
Complete list of Common Names  •  A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
I was outta bullets
Registered: March 29, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 2,750
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
I just bought the BD of George Méliès' A Trip to the Moon.
It is currently listed as Color. But it is actually shot in b/w and hand colored. There is no color alternative that really fits that, but my thinking is that Colorized is the one that comes closest.

Thoughts?

If you read the rules, colorized is what it is.
Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
Registered: Apr 11, 2004
Registered: May 26, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,879
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Does the BD also have the b&w version on the disc?  If so, the answer is Mixed.  If it only has the hand-colored version, per the rules that is Colorized.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,684
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Danae Cassandra:
Quote:
Does the BD also have the b&w version on the disc?  If so, the answer is Mixed.  If it only has the hand-colored version, per the rules that is Colorized.

Only as a special feature.

Edit: Wouldn't that be Multiple rather than Mixed?
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
 Last edited: by GSyren
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,736
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
Edit: Wouldn't that be Multiple rather than Mixed?

Indeed.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
Registered: Apr 11, 2004
Registered: May 26, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,879
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
You are right, my bad
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next