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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Registered: March 29, 2007
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You may have noticed a large number of contributions adding D-Box. I was PMing with the originator of these and he gave me this explanation. I'm presenting it here for discussion as to validity.

As with every feature, you need equipment that supports it.

For D-Box, one needs a D-Box system which consists of one or more motion seats and a controller. The controller is the brain of the system. It listens to the soundtrack and synchronizes the motion to the movie. All the codes, i.e. the motion patterns and the fingerprints of the audio tracks, are ultimately stored on the controller. It uses a Shazam-like algorithm to recognize the movie/audio track.

The codes are downloaded from D-Box's server, so the codes can be released after the release of the physical disk. Last year D-Box released motion codes for James Bond Goldfinger... it works with every disk, broadcast or stream of that movie.

Through the D-Box Motion Controller app on can not only set up the system, but one also has access to the library of motion codes and one can search for a given movie if it is supported.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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IDK, this is a tough one. I mean, in that case should we include anything that, at one time, was available via BD Live? Personally, D-Box should only be submitted if it's available on the disc and not through a download.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I believe like all other features... it needs to be listed on the disc/release.
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i agree, D-Box should only be submitted if it's available on the disc and not through a download.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorprimetime21
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I agree as well
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
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Agreed with the other comments.

If it's simply "codes can be released after the release of the physical disk" – then that just does not apply here.
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On september 16, 2017, I posted (here, in the Desktop Beta Release Testing section of the forum):
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let's only track it if it's actually present on the disc.

I still feel that way. It's interesting to see that, in that same post, I also noted the following:
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As always, things like this should have been hammered out *before* contributions using this new checkbox were enabled.

And here we are, sixteen months later, and still there hasn't been a rules update addressing the new and changed features in the latest DVD Profiler version. If a new feature checkbox is added, a new row should be added to the Disc Features page of the contribution rules. That hasn't happened, we're left to figure it out for ourselves - and we're never going to get everyone on the same page...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
Registered: March 14, 2007
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I agree with the majority.

If it's not on the disc or mentioned on the menu and/or packaging then it shouldn't be added.

Sure Digital Copies used to be on the disc itself, but now they are available via download. But because they are mentioned on the packaging we included it as a feature.

But we wouldn't go back and edit a several years old profile to add a Digital Copy to it just because it's now been made available for download on later releases.

So the same with D-Box.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantmv038856
Registered: February 3, 2008
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Hi,

As the originator I considered the D-Box support info as useful for D-Box owners as well as those considering such a system. If DVD Profiler is supposed to be the central point of information of your Collection, I still think the D-Box Info belongs there. I would even go further and request this option, which currently is available for Blu-Rays only, for DVD as well...

One can of course use custom tags but the whole point of DVD Profiler is that the data is being contributed by everyone so that every user can take advantage...

The D-Box code on the Disc Feature was a temporary thing, when D-Box controllers still had an optical drive... for a couple of years now, since the system has moved to the Shazam-like algorithm, the codes on the Disc can‘t be used with the current D-Box HEMC (Home Entertainment Motion Controller) anymore and all codes come via download and valid subscription is needed.

My two cents...

Markus
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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If it's not on the disc or mentioned on the menu and/or packaging then it shouldn't be added.
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But we wouldn't go back and edit a several years old profile to add a Digital Copy to it just because it's now been made available for download on later releases.
So the same with D-Box.


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Registered: May 18, 2007
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Hi,

As the originator I considered the D-Box support info as useful for D-Box owners as well as those considering such a system. If DVD Profiler is supposed to be the central point of information of your Collection, I still think the D-Box Info belongs there. I would even go further and request this option, which currently is available for Blu-Rays only, for DVD as well...

One can of course use custom tags but the whole point of DVD Profiler is that the data is being contributed by everyone so that every user can take advantage...

The D-Box code on the Disc Feature was a temporary thing, when D-Box controllers still had an optical drive... for a couple of years now, since the system has moved to the Shazam-like algorithm, the codes on the Disc can‘t be used with the current D-Box HEMC (Home Entertainment Motion Controller) anymore and all codes come via download and valid subscription is needed.

My two cents...

Markus


Correct, I appreciate that as well.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
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Quoting mv038856:
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Hi,

As the originator I considered the D-Box support info as useful for D-Box owners as well as those considering such a system.

Markus


When one needs to purchase a "system", then the data does not get contributed.

The rules state: "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.  Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover."

Since the data you are contributing does NOT come from the DVD or the cover, per rules, it can NOT be contributed.

If the data is important to you, tick the D-Box and lock the Features section so it will not be overridden. But, that data should not be contributed.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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I have to agree with the naysayers. 

I go back to the digital copy.  The only reason we include the DC tag, is if it is actually included with he purchase.  There are many movies that are on VUDU or Movies Anywhere or others that have available DC of movies that I do not own.

Since it was something that wasn't included with purchase, tehn It should not be included with the profile.

Though, you may start a pinned thread to cover the movies that have D-box available, therefore the info would be available to the people that read the forums..

My opinion...your mileage may vary...
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