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testdvdmat
Registered: October 16, 2015
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Hi,
I'm testing DVD Profiler at the moment. I have a big collection of DVDs (1000+). I imported the DVDs using a list with the EAN and there are quite a lot of them missing in the database. I use OpenOffice at the moment to organize my DVDs and looking for something faster. But it is quite some work to add a non existing DVDs into the program. In the current state it is not really tempting switch to DVD Profiler. Am I doing something wrong, or are there really so many DVDs missing?
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I am missing some data to provide you with full info, but here goes.

The DVDprofiler database is organised with a primary key on the combination of country code and UPC/EAN-code (in its absence the disk ID).
For instance the full database has at present around 832,00 entries (DVD, BluRay etc combined). Of those, for instance, ± 208,000 are USA located entries, ±85,000 UK, ±54,000 Netherlands and at the other side of the range 2 for Vietnam and one from Peru. No offence to those countries, all entries were user contributed so the numbers show where most DVDprofiler users are located.
Your country could be one with just very few entries. It is also possible you have a real oddball collection of DVDs , but I don't want to assume that too quickly. Your post doesn't indicate your country (or the country where your DVD's came from).

If it is not a country with a sizeable count you may want to dowbload a very similar profile from aonther country if that is good enough for you. Please do not contribute it to the online database as from your own country though, unless you have thoroughly corrected all data items specific to your own country.

To see the numbers: Choose "Add DVDs to Collection" either from the menu or click the button or use CTRL-Ins. Select the "By Title" tab and change Region and BD Region to "Any Region". Change Locality to your country (or another) and you'll see the volume numbers above.

Finally, again, this is a user contributed database. It all depends on the volume of contributors. For instance, A few years ago some huge contributors of UK profiles changed their focus and left here, meaning current UK contribution rate is substantially lower than it once was. Just as an example.

Just curious: your registration date states 2015. Did you left using it dormant for 4 years?
Eric

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testdvdmat
Registered: October 16, 2015
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It is my second try to run DVD Profiler. That's why the account is that old. My country is Germany. Could be, that I have some odd DVDs, because sometimes, when I see a unknown DVD cheap, I give it a try.
For example I'm missing the DVD "Zwei ausgekochte Gauner", which is the German version of "The Sting II" https://ssl.ofdb.de/film/23440,&partner=39210
If there would only some missing DVDs I could add them, but it i miss about 80.

There is a free alternative to DVD Profiler, which I'm testing at the moment as well and this program gets the data from IMDB. Of course there are a lot of DVDs missing too, but it would be nice, if DVD Profiler could import data like that program as well.

The data of DVD Profiler is user contributed. That means you never can tell, how accurate it is?
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Registered: March 31, 2007
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It is my second try to run DVD Profiler. That's why the account is that old. My country is Germany. Could be, that I have some odd DVDs, because sometimes, when I see a unknown DVD cheap, I give it a try.
For example I'm missing the DVD "Zwei ausgekochte Gauner", which is the German version of "The Sting II" https://ssl.ofdb.de/film/23440,&partner=39210
If there would only some missing DVDs I could add them, but it i miss about 80.

There is a free alternative to DVD Profiler, which I'm testing at the moment as well and this program gets the data from IMDB. Of course there are a lot of DVDs missing too, but it would be nice, if DVD Profiler could import data like that program as well.

The data of DVD Profiler is user contributed. That means you never can tell, how accurate it is?


Is like IMDB.
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Well, Germany is well represented with over 110,000 entries in the DVDprofiler online database.

"The Sting" is there with 9 (!) german entries but "The Sting II" is absent. Which means that whoever bought that DVD was not AND a DVDprofiler user AND willing to contribute the german localised version. Actually there are only 3 entries for "The Sting II" in the whole database (Brazil, USA, Hong Kong) — set Region, BD Region and Locality to "any " on the "add DVDs to collection/By title" window and you'll see. The USA entry looks promising enough to use as a base for a German version in your collection.
The low presence count just means it didn't attract many DVDprofiler users to buy it...
By the way, the search algoritm looks in both the orginal title and the localised (=translated) title.

In its early days IMDB was just as much user contributed as DVDprofiler. But since IMDB has grown into a well known site it gets additional support info from movie studies (as far as I've heard).

Many DVDp users pride themselves that this database is far more accurate than IMDB. There are numerous threads that detail that. Note though that IMDB is focused on movies whereas this database is focused on DVD/BluRay disks. Hence DVDprofiler has additional fields in your local database to document where you left the disk, where you bought it and for what price and so on. See the "Personalise DVD" window (CTRL p) for details. Also to document features on the disk, like which audio tracks, which subtitles, which extras like documentaries and so on. For this see the Edit window (CTRL e).

Anyway, if your craving is to buy the odd / rare / cheap DVD, nothing wrong with that in itself, there may not be that many people like you. Certainly if that movie was never a big success in the theaters. Which goes some way to explain its absence.
And, coming back to the above: The Sting II is present in the DVDprofiler online database, just not its Germany localised publication...
Eric

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Registered: March 18, 2007
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Hi,
I'm testing DVD Profiler at the moment. I have a big collection of DVDs (1000+). I imported the DVDs using a list with the EAN and there are quite a lot of them missing in the database. I use OpenOffice at the moment to organize my DVDs and looking for something faster. But it is quite some work to add a non existing DVDs into the program. In the current state it is not really tempting switch to DVD Profiler. Am I doing something wrong, or are there really so many DVDs missing?

I would suggest using my plugin BulkEdit, but you would need to purchase a full license for DVD Profiler to do that - actually, really cheap.

Anyway, what many people forget is that the actual key for a profile is not the UPC / EAN, but "Profile ID". The Profile ID includes the concept of "locality" which is roughly equivalent to "the country for which the DVD was intended to be marketed." The rating on the DVD will almost always correspond to a valid rating used within that country.

When BulkEdit imports a list of UPCs that don't have a corresponding locality associated, it will do a "locality guessing". This usually results in finding a lot more entries, because localities outside the United States are considered (a UPC without a locality is assumed to be US locality and is equivalent to UPC.0)

If you decide to buy a license and also try BulkEdit, come back and post in the BulkEdit Forum, for any help you need.

OR

If you already know the locality for your DVDs, then you can modify your list to add the locality. For example, for Germany, add a ".5" to the end of the UPC/EAN.

Here is an example: 4260090982129.5

There is a file - localities.xod which is an XML file you can view with notepad. It has all the locality IDs, the locality name and all the ratings used in that locality.

It is located at C:\Users\{your user name}\AppData\Local\DVD Profiler
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testdvdmat
Registered: October 16, 2015
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Then it is about am I'm willing to invest that time to add my missing DVDs. I'm not sure yet. I ordered some DVDs and will test it "live". It is always easier to do it one by one instead of importing a big amount of existing DVDs.
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Then it is about am I'm willing to invest that time to add my missing DVDs. I'm not sure yet. I ordered some DVDs and will test it "live". It is always easier to do it one by one instead of importing a big amount of existing DVDs.

That is a ridiculous statement. But you have a right to do it your way.
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testdvdmat
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Why is it rididulous? It is much more time consuming to add new DVDs in DVD Profiler than in my old database.

I discovered, that some DVDs are implemented differently. Which makes sense, because they are probably added by different users. The X-Files for example are very well done with the separate DVDs of every season. The Simpsons DVDs, some seasons are with separate DVDs, some are not and I don't like things beeing different.

Then I ran into some troubles with a defect database during the testphase, which could be repaired from the program.

And then the new DVDs arrived and the second DVD was already not in the database. So I think there is not much timesaving for me with DVD profiler and I will stay with my old system for now.

Thank you for your help.
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Well thanks for the clarification. Although I still don't agree, it was respectful of you to come back and make your case. Of course, I wish you the best, and would still offer to help you in some other way if I could. It is this kind of respectful conversation even between people that disagree that I wish there was more of in the world.
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In the heyday of its (1997 2009) DVD was celebrated by consumer electronics manufacturers, movie studios, as well as customers as the most effective ways of viewing video content. In an extremely short time, displaced both laserdisc as well as VHS from store shelves. To enter the third decade of its, DVDs continue to be for sale, but with the arrival of Blu ray Disc, Ultra HD Blu ray, and online streaming, sales have been dwindling.

Appearances Might be Deceiving
Immediately after DVD's introduction, a glitch came out on several discs which place a damper on the format for several. The glitch has been described as DVD Rot.

What seems to be an indestructible 5 inch disc, is really a fragile audio/video/data storage unit which is actually held together by a laminated exterior surface area with levels of reflective and plastic metallic coatings, as well as held together by exclusive glues.

When designed correctly, positioned as well as removed correctly from its storage space situation when used, and stored correctly by the customer, DVDs can outlive videotape.

DVD Quality Control Issues
Even with the outward appearance of its, a tiny proportion of DVDs are able to experience deteriorating influences, like cloudy aspects (which look as coffee stains), holes, and specks that could show up after repeated plays.

Additionally, several multi layered DVDs (DVDs with longer content) might feel additional defects or layer separation that show up as pixelation or skips whenever the laser in the DVD player has to transition between the layers. At times the DVD player will in reality freeze at this stage, stopping playback of the following level. This might be linked to lack of quality management at the factory in which the DVDs are made.

Yet another quality management problem missed by some makers is the kind of middle spindle utilized in DVD storage situations. While many spindles enable the simple release of the DVD, some spindles might be very rigid which they are able to tear the tips of the external lamination of a DVD in for example way this other particles and dust could creep in and cause disc playability problems as time moves on.

Neither the consumer electronics industry or maybe consumer advocacy groups have resolved the problem systematically. Nevertheless, a few dependable private people in online and print media (refer to the list at the conclusion of this article) took notice and also have advocated action. Nevertheless, the film studios have responded in a diverse manner. A number of studios have replaced defective DVDs while others refused to upgrade defective DVDs past a typical warrantee period.

Effect on Recordable DVDs With household recordable DVD, nobody did a considerable analysis of the dozens of brands of DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW/RAM discs utilized. On the flip side, there have not been any main reports of degeneration of the discs.

Right now there are differences in disc building quality by companies. It's recommended to stay with a brand that you're acquainted with, like Maxell, TDK, Philips, Memorex, and Verbatim.

Customer DVD Care Issues
Probable deterioration of DVDs might not merely be the fault of the disc companies as well as studios. Lots of customer treatment challenges are additionally a consideration. Just like with any video or maybe information moderate treatment in dealing with and storage by the user is really important for life that is night.

Leaving exposed discs lying about, particularly in reach of pets as well as kids, leaves a chance for the disc to be harmed. Additionally, storing the DVD in high moisture or extreme conditions can easily warp a DVD or even cause level separation, like giving them lying about within the automobile on a great day.

Remember that no audio/video storage medium is totally foolproof, despite claims to the contrary. Vinyl records could be scratched & warped, audio & video cassette tapes may be stretched, wrinkled, as well as gather mildew. For individuals who continue to have laserdiscs, several of these discs were (and still are) vulnerable to what's widely known as Laser Rot (List of known titles).

In this author's personal experience, just one DVD has been encountered a 400+ DVD compilation which had any defective symptoms and just 2 cases of lamination peeling because of a rigid bundle spindle continues to be discovered.

So much, no problems with recordable DVD media have been discovered in the author's collection, but since the amount of recordable DVDs is actually a great deal less than business DVDs cases of rot might not immediately show up. Through the years, this author has had to toss out many more defective videotapes compared to defective Laserdiscs or perhaps DVDs.

The Bottom Line
It's a very fact that you will find cases in which a DVD is not able to play right, which may be the outcome of very poor manufacturing management or even just how well they're managed as well as stored by owners, though it's fiction to conclude that many disc titles are actually at risk possibly right now or perhaps down the road.
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