Quoting Boykin:

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What happened to the days when you were saying that Blu-ray had so much capicity that they only needed one disc for the feature and bonus materials.

Nothing happened to those days.  My stance has not changed in that respect.  The problem is that HD DVD really doesn't have the space for a title and extras to be done in one resolution (1080).  In other words, just like DVD has done.  The single disc titles have bonus material on them (all at 480 resolution).  The 2-disc title sets have even more contain.

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You also fail to understand that HD DVD can give as good as if not better picture quality than Blu-ray with their higher bandwidth.

Actually, what you and others fail to understand is the big picture.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for great PQ in a lot of situations.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for lossless sound.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for decent IME features.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for seamless branching at times.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for 200 minute titles.  But, the problem is that HD DVD DOES NOT ALLOW for all of these things to occur together.  HD DVD can't consistently povide the proper construct for a complete next-gen movie experience.

BTW, I'm talking about the format's limit...not the right this minute stuff.

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HD DVD was able to do it without having to build a monster machine costing an arm and a leg.

Funny...low end HD DVD machines were $500 at the end of last year.  Low end Blu-ray players are $500.  HD DVD fans didn't complain about paying $500 then, but they are complaining about $500 about Blu-ray.   Now, the Samsung BD-P1200 Blu-ray player is over $100 less expensive than the Toshiba HD-XA2 HD DVD player (and the Blu-ray player has more features).  Where's the talk about that?
 

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FYI...I am format neutral.  I have an HD DVD player and a Blu-ray player.

I'm sure you do have both player (as you stated).  But, I don't believe you have a lot of Blu-ray titles.

Meanwhile, back in the real world:

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Days after an accidental leak by Amazon.com, Toshiba has issued an official press release announcing the launch of its line of 3rd-gen HD DVD players due this Fall.

According to the just-posted press release, Toshiba plans three new players as part of this launch -- the HD-A3 ($299.99, due in October), the HD-A30 ($399.99, due in September), and the HD-A35 ($499.99, due in October).

As was the case with HD-A2, the entry level HD-A3 player in this third-gen release is a fairly basic HD DVD player, outputting only up to 1080i video.

The two higher-end models, meanwhile, will both offer full 1080p video, as well as the capability of outputing signal at 24 frames per second. Additionally, the company's release boasts that both the A-30 and the A-35 will be first in the Toshiba line to include "CE-Link" connectivity, offering the capability to communicate with and control other CE devices (via HDMI) via player's remote control.

The top-of-the-line HD-A35 is also set to add Deep Color via HDMI, as well as both 5.1 channel analog output and High Bit Rate Audio (up to 7.1 channel) via HDMI.

No photos were available yet at press time, but Toshiba says all three players will boast a "sleek" look, featuring rounded edges, a slim chassis (that's nearly half as tall as the company's first gen HD DVD players) and high gloss, black acrylic face plates.

Source: High-Def Digest

Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

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Like people said HD DVD was going to kill of Blu-ray before it even got started last year, right?  Or, people said that PS3s should not be counted as Blu-ray players, right?  Or, like people said HD DVD will make a comeback this holiday season.  You may have a point there.

What are you babbling about now? And for the record I bought my first DVD player in May 1997, mere months after the format was introduced. It was clear to me and everyone I knew from the the start that this format would kill both laserdisc and VHS. I have also never predicted which HD format was going to win now, if any of them do. I still don't. I did however forsee from your first post that you would soon be self-exposed as the completely trollish twat that you are.

I like the look of the new players.  But I really don't understand why the A35 supports True Color.  Everything I've read about the subjuct has made it very clear that neither format will support True Color.  It's just not in the specs.  I find that part very confusing.  Unless it's just a marketing ploy.

Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

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Quoting Boykin:

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What happened to the days when you were saying that Blu-ray had so much capicity that they only needed one disc for the feature and bonus materials.

Nothing happened to those days.  My stance has not changed in that respect.  The problem is that HD DVD really doesn't have the space for a title and extras to be done in one resolution (1080).  In other words, just like DVD has done.  The single disc titles have bonus material on them (all at 480 resolution).  The 2-disc title sets have even more contain.

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You also fail to understand that HD DVD can give as good as if not better picture quality than Blu-ray with their higher bandwidth.

Actually, what you and others fail to understand is the big picture.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for great PQ in a lot of situations.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for lossless sound.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for decent IME features.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for seamless branching at times.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for 200 minute titles.  But, the problem is that HD DVD DOES NOT ALLOW for all of these things to occur together.  HD DVD can't consistently povide the proper construct for a complete next-gen movie experience.

BTW, I'm talking about the format's limit...not the right this minute stuff.

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HD DVD was able to do it without having to build a monster machine costing an arm and a leg.

Funny...low end HD DVD machines were $500 at the end of last year.  Low end Blu-ray players are $500.  HD DVD fans didn't complain about paying $500 then, but they are complaining about $500 about Blu-ray.   Now, the Samsung BD-P1200 Blu-ray player is over $100 less expensive than the Toshiba HD-XA2 HD DVD player (and the Blu-ray player has more features).  Where's the talk about that?
 

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FYI...I am format neutral.  I have an HD DVD player and a Blu-ray player.

I'm sure you do have both player (as you stated).  But, I don't believe you have a lot of Blu-ray titles.

But if companies are releasing 2 disc Blu-ray sets, aren't you going to have to get up off your butt and change the disc????  Doesen't this take away the advantage of having everything on one disc????

But then again, HD DVD disc have more extras than Blu-ray.  It doesn't matter if they are HD or not, HD DVD disc has them and most Blu-ray disc have few or no extras.

Just a quick question, until the extras are filmed in HD, why upscale them?

Quoting Boykin:

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Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

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Quoting Boykin:

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What happened to the days when you were saying that Blu-ray had so much capicity that they only needed one disc for the feature and bonus materials.

Nothing happened to those days.  My stance has not changed in that respect.  The problem is that HD DVD really doesn't have the space for a title and extras to be done in one resolution (1080).  In other words, just like DVD has done.  The single disc titles have bonus material on them (all at 480 resolution).  The 2-disc title sets have even more contain.

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You also fail to understand that HD DVD can give as good as if not better picture quality than Blu-ray with their higher bandwidth.

Actually, what you and others fail to understand is the big picture.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for great PQ in a lot of situations.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for lossless sound.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for decent IME features.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for seamless branching at times.  HD DVD CAN ALLOW for 200 minute titles.  But, the problem is that HD DVD DOES NOT ALLOW for all of these things to occur together.  HD DVD can't consistently povide the proper construct for a complete next-gen movie experience.

BTW, I'm talking about the format's limit...not the right this minute stuff.

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HD DVD was able to do it without having to build a monster machine costing an arm and a leg.

Funny...low end HD DVD machines were $500 at the end of last year.  Low end Blu-ray players are $500.  HD DVD fans didn't complain about paying $500 then, but they are complaining about $500 about Blu-ray.   Now, the Samsung BD-P1200 Blu-ray player is over $100 less expensive than the Toshiba HD-XA2 HD DVD player (and the Blu-ray player has more features).  Where's the talk about that?
 

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FYI...I am format neutral.  I have an HD DVD player and a Blu-ray player.

I'm sure you do have both player (as you stated).  But, I don't believe you have a lot of Blu-ray titles.

But if companies are releasing 2 disc Blu-ray sets, aren't you going to have to get up off your butt and change the disc????  Doesen't this take away the advantage of having everything on one disc????

But then again, HD DVD disc have more extras than Blu-ray.  It doesn't matter if they are HD or not, HD DVD disc has them and most Blu-ray disc have few or no extras.

It really just comes down to whether or not you want to move backwards, technology-wise, instead of forward.  Personally, I would rather move forward.  You don't seem to understand that formats only provide the construct.  The content providers (movie studios) have to provide that content.  Blu-ray allows for the total experience to be delivered better than HD DVD...period.

Remember, before the format war even started, it was acknowledged (by Toshiba) that Blu-ray was better than HD DVD (it was AOD back then) at just about everything except price.  Research the meetings.

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It'll be interesting to see what '300' has done to the stats!

'300' has broken ALL previous records for HD sales.  It sold over 250,000 copies so far.  I just wonder what the percentage breakdown for '300' (HD DVD vs. Blu-ray) was for that week.