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"I don't like old movies"
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I prefer the older titles as well, depends on the mood. Jimmy Stewart was the MAN, waiting for them to release "No highway in the sky", as well as "Jeopardy" with Barbara Stanwyck, "Dalton Girls" with Merry Anders (won't hold my breath on that one), and "One touch of Venus" with Ava Gardner, and hoping Fox gets their act together and start up with the film noir series again soon, I looked forward to them as well as the studio classics. The stories relied more on character development, where you actually felt something for the person, now you don't have any connection, example: Poseidon Adventure 1974: I felt for Shelly Winters when she died, but the remake, I can't even remember who died and who lived, but the waves looked good though.
best Director: Alfred Hitchcock
best Actor: Jimmy Stewart
best Actress: Ava Gardner with Paulette Goddard as a close second
who are some of your favorite classic directors and actors?
most times a movie works better in black and white, when they add color (Ted "mr. colorize everything" Turner) it doesn't work as well.
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I'm gonna be the one to say, "I dont like old movies". Especially movies that need special effects, e.g. SciFi (though many war movies look pretty good no matter when made). I've liked many old "classics", but if i buy a movie and notice it says <90's, i'll most likely leave it to the shelve. The only exception is with old finnish b/w movies. I started watching movies in the early 90's, so that might be a reason why.

When people say that cgi can make the movie worse and it "stands out" from the rest. For me, i get the same feeling when i watch a simple car scene, and you can see very well that their sitting in a studio and the driver doesnt even look where hes driving.
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For me, i get the same feeling when i watch a simple car scene, and you can see very well that their sitting in a studio and the driver doesnt even look where hes driving.


Funnily enough I don't mind that on old movies but it annoys me when I see it on modern titles. Supernatural series one had a few of these 'moments'
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most times a movie works better in black and white, when they add color (Ted "mr. colorize everything" Turner) it doesn't work as well.


For me, colourising an older film is the most ignorant thing a studio can do and demonstrates a total lack of understanding. Using black and white was naturally harder so how cinematographers feel when they see their past work coloured in, I don't know! It has to be lit so differently to colour that it is simply impossible to colourise it later and it looks ridiculous. I remember Roger Deakins saying how much harder he found working with black and white on The Man Who Wasn't There; you can't change it later.

James Stewart is my favourite actor too. A mate of mine is always going on about a film called "Dynamite Man from Glory Jail", currently unavailable on DVD. Ever seen it?
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most times a movie works better in black and white, when they add color (Ted "mr. colorize everything" Turner) it doesn't work as well.

For me, colourising an older film is the most ignorant thing a studio can do and demonstrates a total lack of understanding

Whilst I do agree with you, in the UK, where we have a different frame rate on the TVs, all films would be sped up from 24 to 25 frames per second (as it is cheaper than to scan and re sync the film), so we always had "shorter" run times.
When they released the "colorized" versions on VHS, for some reason, they had processed the film to run at 25 frames per sec, but at the correct 24 fps speed (I have no idea how/why), so some UK based film mags suggested buying these films, and turing the colour down on the TV to watch them correctly.

But, I hate the idea of making a colour version of a B&W film
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most times a movie works better in black and white, when they add color (Ted "mr. colorize everything" Turner) it doesn't work as well.

For me, colourising an older film is the most ignorant thing a studio can do and demonstrates a total lack of understanding

Whilst I do agree with you, in the UK, where we have a different frame rate on the TVs, all films would be sped up from 24 to 25 frames per second (as it is cheaper than to scan and re sync the film), so we always had "shorter" run times.
When they released the "colorized" versions on VHS, for some reason, they had processed the film to run at 25 frames per sec, but at the correct 24 fps speed (I have no idea how/why), so some UK based film mags suggested buying these films, and turing the colour down on the TV to watch them correctly.

But, I hate the idea of making a colour version of a B&W film


Does that change the "feel" of the movie? or is it not noticeable?
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I'm gonna be the one to say, "I dont like old movies". Especially movies that need special effects, e.g. SciFi (though many war movies look pretty good no matter when made). I've liked many old "classics", but if i buy a movie and notice it says <90's, i'll most likely leave it to the shelve. The only exception is with old finnish b/w movies. I started watching movies in the early 90's, so that might be a reason why.

When people say that cgi can make the movie worse and it "stands out" from the rest. For me, i get the same feeling when i watch a simple car scene, and you can see very well that their sitting in a studio and the driver doesnt even look where hes driving.

For me, I often find these types of optical and in-camera effects a part of an "old movie's charm."

I still prefer the first TERMINATOR for instance, has tons of dodgy effects, but a much better narrative.

The only old movies I "don't like" are the (in)famous ones where they had enormous shooting scripts and the actors had to speak their lines at what seems like 3x speed... sorry.
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The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots.

Wow, I thought I was the only one to buy that



Hey, I used it to write a ballistics program in Basic that I used to crunch the data for a magazine article I wrote (and got published - and well paid) in the premier gun magazine in the world at the time.  That was a crackerjack little computer.  I can't tell you how many hours we wasted playing that sailing ship game that was made for it, having naval battles between square riggers!
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I read somewhere that the Apollo 11 landing on the Moon in 1969 had 50 % less computer hardware/software  than your present day Car ..
Guess they wouldn't be impresed with that type of knowledge now or would they??


May 1965 trough September 1967, Merritt Island, Florida.
I was on the team that installed the computer that collected the data for Apollo pre-launch and launch, and its first 15 minutes after launch. That’s the data that the scope dopes are monitoring, you see on TV. I stay there and took over getting the computer through its acceptance tests. After I returned to Phoenix, AZ I took many trips back there for Apollo shots.

My first personal computer was a single board computer, data and instruction input in hex via a key pad. 
Being a pack rat, I still have it someplace.

Two of my all time favorite films are “How Green Was My Valley" and “The Third Man”

A very wise man once said and I paraphrase, that there were only two types of music, the good and the bad; I guess that could be said of films. I have on DVD and enjoy all types of film, of nationality, and genre and production year.

I think that anybody who uses the genre or production year to determine whether a film or music or any art form for that matter is good or bad is a very shallow person.


Wonderful - thanks for sharing. It brings back memories of my father - he did the analysis of the material brought back from the moon. I have a picture of him next to one of the first computers - it took up the entire room! The data in that room would probably fit in the palm of my hand today!


and Thankyou for your memories... !!  LOL  couldn't resist  this though ...   

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Great picture. But what's the steering wheel for?
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Whilst I do agree with you, in the UK, where we have a different frame rate on the TVs, all films would be sped up from 24 to 25 frames per second (as it is cheaper than to scan and re sync the film), so we always had "shorter" run times.

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Does that change the "feel" of the movie? or is it not noticeable?

It is both noticeable, and not... Until you hear the sound running at a slightly different pitch.... usually it is hard to tell (Unless you sit and watch the film both ways at the same time of course)

However, personally, this does not bother me (More annoyed with films being cut on DVD (sometimes) for content, but this is not as bad as it used to be - all motion picture films have to be classified before any release, cinema or DVD)

Does not happen on HD-DVD (or BluRay?)
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Wow, before this thread it never occurred to me that we are in a "new age" of movies due to CGI.

I think the unfortunate prejudice against films of a previous age (no CGI, black & white or silent) reveals that person's relationship with the entertainment medium.  To mentally absorb an older film runs the risk that one might have to enter a give and take relationship in order to relate with these perceptions from the past. 

They are evidently looking only for movies that feed them emotionally or on an ego basis.  I think to exclude a move specifically because you are not a member of the original target audience is saying "I only like things that kiss my ass."
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However, personally, this does not bother me (More annoyed with films being cut on DVD (sometimes) for content, but this is not as bad as it used to be - all motion picture films have to be classified before any release, cinema or DVD)


It's never bothered me either. To have spotted it and consider it a detriment when you haven't heard the other version, suggests you are either superhuman or pedantic!  I wonder, do British film's slow down on NTSC? Do people complain about that?
Jon
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Does not happen on HD-DVD (or BluRay?)

Films being cut or "incorrectly pitched"?

Anyway, both instances have occurred.   A lot of Blu-ray titles are cut (Kung Fu Hustle, Flying Daggers, Casino Royale - esp. the UK one, etc.)  A small batch of HD titles were also "PAL pitched" but by all accounts this problem was eliminated from the latest one.

Anyway... back to the topic.
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However, personally, this does not bother me (More annoyed with films being cut on DVD (sometimes) for content, but this is not as bad as it used to be - all motion picture films have to be classified before any release, cinema or DVD)

It's never bothered me either. To have spotted it and consider it a detriment when you haven't heard the other version, suggests you are either superhuman or pedantic!  I wonder, do British film's slow down on NTSC? Do people complain about that?

Simple answer, no, film is shot at 24 fps as per industry standards, NTSC is 29.??fps, they convert the film properly there - not sure about UK TV to US TV though
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